Its strange to me that so many people in here talking about eugenics when neither eleitl nor the paper posted had anything to do with eugenics. This place is a dimwitted mob of barely literates arguing with imaginary ideological enemies. actually i probably shouldn’t use the word “arguing” since that requires something like a chain of claims-reasoning-evidence etc…
less censorship
People fail to understand we are in fiscal dominance rather than monetary dominance now and interest rate increases wont throttle inflation. Interest rate increases can actually create inflation now because that money is printed and paid to bondholders who then use it in the actual economy therefore creating more money chasing the same amount of goods , therefore inflationary. this is like the 40s not the 70s.
I doubt this shit even moves the needle any more than the general neoliberal greenwash bullshit. All the parties are pro-human growth and anti-nature if it comes to asking for sacrifice to standard of living for humans
tldr the bond market is about as distorted as soviet economy, this eventually meets reality
Come on. If we don’t dig it up and burn it, it’s going to stay under the ground.
Those who think we should continue using fossil fuels despite the climate change and weather effects we’re already seeing do not understand the physics of how the world works.
our energy requirements for being alive are much higher than a population that didn’t get itself on a hockey stick shaped population chart. we are in an intensification trap. we must continue to use fossil fuels to maintain the population and standard of living, unless we are willling to sacrifice the population and standard of living and/or renewables grow so much they take up the slack.
so any talk of leaving it in the ground needs to also include talk of how we are going to allocate the misery that comes from such.
as of 2024 meaningful carbon capture is still hopium and copium
Researchers and practitioners have questioned society’s ability to reach Gt-scale CDR from novel approaches such as BECCS and DACCS, given the small role these technologies play in climate change mitigation today
Others have highlighted the potential environmental (10–12) and social [e.g., food prices (11)] impacts of CDR, particularly for BECCS due to its high land and water requirements but also for DACCS.
They have also critiqued the role that CDR plays in net-zero policy narratives, arguing that optimistic assumptions about CDR in the future may be used to delay action today and represent a moral hazard whose risks are disproportionately borne by low-income countries and future generations .
… institutional, behavioral, and social barriers …, experience with related technologies suggests that they may be substantial
One thing about USA healthcare is it is radically different state to state. i just move to state with better healthcare as needed , though thats a hobo privilege and doesnt work for normies
Holy shit i was really just hoping that 2023 was an anomaly and now i see we are in the next level of “oh shit!”
No recovery back towards old trend yet. This could be snowballing, or eh uh i guess the opposite of snowballing. ?Fireballing?
This could be a system perturbed into a new higher equilibrium but with the feedback who knows how far this can go. blue ocean arctic ☠️
been coming to canada for 3 years now and this place is getting very noticeably more and more homeless people and tent cities each time and i mean from 1 person in an area to 10 to this time 100. People freeze to death in the night fairly common, nobody seems to care and it isnt brought up. Blows my mind the homeless dont cooperate and take over any of these abandoned buildings and fight the police about it make some media show they are booting them out to freeze to death. The apathy of late stage capitalism is incredible, its people dying of cold with police stopping them from making fires or getting decent shelter. Makes me curious how bad the jails are but im not going to try to find out because it will fuck up my passport.
the medical system is fully broken here despite the universal healthcare, even americas fake universal healthcare works better in many states versus canada system. lots of it is because the drs and nurses move to usa for more pay. nonlocal food prices here are outrageous and you can really see what people would be eating if it was local only. Typical northern european fair like storage cabbage ,potatoes , carrots, etc… very bland diet, i eat it because moneys tight. Rent is insane. a single room in a crack house 750$-1050$
What exactly do they think humans will be hunting? The large mammals will go extinct in the process of 8+billion falling to hunter gatherer population levels if agriculture goes bye bye. Also heating the earth doesnt have the same effects as the ice age era in terms of making ag nonviable. Cold is much worse than warm.
on a quick read though im seeing lots of mistakes in this paper . so do your own research and math
there is a paper called something like “biophysical option space for feeding earth” that covers that to some extent, If i recall correctly, …its from years ago. if you find it and thats not the one let me know and i will try to figure out which one im talking about when i have time
fossil record show rich life at higher temps . alligators in wyoming and palm trees in canada
i believe the 2% figure is global agricultures total energy usage out of total global energy supply. the 5% is more specifically fertilizer from natural gas supply.
fertilizer prices have come back down again, but yeah any time price rises the cost rapidly prices out marginal producers and the consumers at the bottom of the socioeconomic ladder.
I know eurozone fertilizer production seems utterly fucked without access to the cheap russian gas. USA is booming with pipelines and new ammonia production facilities .
Weve replaced the nutrient cycle with a drain to waste system unfortunately , our cities commingle out urine with toxic waste in the sewerage systems and its not economically recoverable.
Iiving rural its illegal to use and probably near impossible to legalize.
so its accessible only to rural outlaws, its not a systemic solution and still leave N deficits that have to be made up for with synthetic fixation.
Nitrogen fertilizer production consumes about 5 per cent of the global natural gas supplies, which arent supposed to peak until 2034ish, so we probably have a good decade runway ahead still
There has been a number of “we got this” claims for green nitrogen production that ive followed for some years and tried to get data from but every one of them has narrative to spew and zero math to give an idea of energy cost of per unit of N which lights up my bullshit meter. an example of a company https://jupiterionics.com/our-technology/ though i see they changed their website since last time i checked so maybe their is data now. The fact that none of them will give figures to compare makes me pretty sure they are all worse than Birkeland–Eyde process which is not dependent on fossil fuels in the same way as haber bosch process.
1 lb nitrogen per 43lbs dry corn grain, 1lb nitrogen per 150lb potatoes production.
According to wikipedia With 1kwh in birkland eyde process you get about 60grams of Nitric acid so ?13.333? of elemental N (if i did the chemistry conversions right).
So a 1kwh solar array in oregon would get about 5kwh per day in the spring ramping up to 7.5kwh in summer which happens to track plant N needs since its light dependent . so if we just use a 6kwh average for may-september growing season we get 900kwh x 13 = 11700g = 11.7 kilos elemental N which is 25.13 kilos urea or 33.4 kilos ammonium nitrate (check my chemistry)
Bringing us (sorry switching back to lbs instead of kilos again) a solid 25lbs of N which is good for about 1075lb of corn grain or 3750lb of potato which is adequate for a single persons yearly calorie rations.
So overall i think it could make economic sense as a survival enhancement to get a cheap 1kw used solar panel array connected to a home brew Birkeland–Eyde nitric acid generator bubbling through a limestone/dolomite pea gravel bubble barrel (calcium nitrate) fed to a mazzei injector to fertigate a home self sufficiency garden.
Thoughts anyone?
amortized across 25+ years in food value versus retail it pays for itself many time over . costs versus just buying 1 ton pallet of 20 kilo bags of fertilizer , maybe not as advantageous economically but certainly a cooler project than explaining why you have an entire ton of ammonium nitrate in the shed
Bonds don’t play the same game as stocks. Bonds are your trust in the government, not in business. Thus up and down cycles in bond markets are different than these cycles in stock markets.
different but not inversely correlated. Its suboptimal versus true hedge. also see inflation adjusted returns on bonds .
Yes, bonds have lower returns and bonds alone are a bad investment. Everyone knows that. But bonds tend to grow rapidly during financial troubles thus dampening negative effects of stock market failures (because central banks tend to increase rates to combat inflation).
Central banks increasing rates lowers value of prior issued bonds. and bonds growing in financial crisis is just a noncausal correlation thats not a fixed way things work. In the macroeconomic position we are entering it doesn’t make sense . Look at how TLT was down like 30+% during this crash that just happened in stock and bonds .
I understand what you are saying about diversification but it makes no sense to put money in bonds when you can have other hedges that have true mechanistic inverse correlation and bonds are negative real yield. Show me any diversification set up using bonds and i can show you a higher yielding setup that has lower risk.
They tend to know this stuff better than you and they bear legal responsibility
definitely they don’t. Most of those people are idiot parasites stealing from financially illiterate people.
If you cant come to grips with the scientific fact that ecological destruction has a direct connection to population then you should start a special sub for CollapseMagicalThinking.
Life requires resources these resources have flow rates, for example the amount of human appropriated calories that are possible to grow in one m2 is limited by things like sunlight temperature nutrient inputs etc… This is scientifically measurable and all creatures including humans are constrained by such things. We are also constrained by waste production and the rate of waste detoxification by ecosystem services.
Of course “affluence” as measured by consumption is also part of the equation P*A=environmental impact. Humans appropriation of global bioproductivity is already pushed the other life on earth into mass extinction. Its already reduced many areas to lower bioproductivity levels. Over 40% of our current population number is dependent on advanced synthetic fertilizers that are highly dependent on fossil fuels and other depleting resources.
High population doesn’t imply killing people. It can mean voluntary birth control usage and lowering the ability of the global 1% to engage in excessive consumption rather than killing the poor that use a tiny fraction of the resources per capita.