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  • Regarding Password Managers, you can put a little extra effort into setup with KeePass + SyncThing to avoid using 3rd parties at all.

    Highly recommend not relying on a cloud provider for this kind of thing. You’re just asking for one of two things to happen:

    1. Their servers get compromised
    2. They decide to shut down

    I know you can self-host with vaultwarden, but if you’re not a self-hoster then it’s a little bit simpler to setup SyncThing and use the kdbx format.




  • Use this site to test your uniqueness in different browsers and VPN setups:

    https://abrahamjuliot.github.io/creepjs/

    I have found that Mullvad Browser + VPN (with DAITA and Multihop ON) are better than FireFox or LibreWolf. Me and another user on here went through a little back and forth comparing some things. Just follow the comment thread from here:

    https://programming.dev/comment/15090531

    (take it with a grain of salt and DYOR, we are not experts)

    Also, I love Tor, but another reason to be careful: exit nodes can be run by anyone, including bad actors and any 3-letter agency in the world. At the very least, add a VPN layer when using Tor.

    ETA: Keep in mind that it’s not just the browser that matters. Your screen size, GPU, operating system, and several other factors also add or take away from your uniqueness in terms of browser fingerprint. Basically, they less you change in the browser, the more generic and similar to everyone else you look like. The better your OS hides things from apps (for instance, in flatpak sandboxes) the better.

    ETA2: I like creepjs for testing over EFF’s tool for one main reason. EFF tells you how unique you are, theoretically. Creepjs actually takes extra steps to make a guess at whether or not the browser is lying and trying to hide from fingerprinting.












  • I’m just not convinced it can fool google and meta

    Yea, this is a great and healthy skepticism to have. It’s why I went deep on this little research tangent.

    Besides browser fingerprinting, there are many other ways to tie you to online behavior. For instance, the DAITA thing has nothing to do with browser fingerprints, but specifically the size of your inbound and outbound traffic. The NSA uses that to figure out your behavior and link on-VPN and off-VPN traffic together with great success, regardless of how many hops you go through. It’s the behavior that gives you away.

    I’m always on my VPN, reconnect at random times, and have all the extras turned on. Something else that may be a factor is that I have Mullvad Browser installed via Flatpak and is sandboxed to hell. Maybe you installed via .deb or something in Mint?

    Any way, thanks again for humoring me in this! I think you’re right that at least you are sorta getting lumped in with others, but it’s never going to be 100% foolproof and we should all plan for that.




  • Cool! I think you meant Newpipe? Probably autocorrect. I usually use that one as well, since I don’t really watch YT on my phone not having sponsorblock or dearrow doesn’t really bother me.

    And yea, the proxy/VPN thing is a widespread issue that affects all YT alternatives. The root cause is YT themselves blocking ranges of IPs if they determine it is a data center or VPN (and also random nsig changes). Every once in a while it will start working, but then you’ll get blocked after watching one vid.

    This same reason is why the amount of public Invidious instances has dwindled and they now recommend self-hosting it. Even with FreeTube, I can’t use a VPN. You might still encounter some issues from time to time even with Newpipe through a VPN.


  • Interesting, thanks for coming back with some info. It brings up more questions, but I understand if you don’t want to dive deeper. No worries!


    1. Just to make sure we aren’t testing two separate systems, I am using the site hosted on GitHub from the maintainer: https://abrahamjuliot.github.io/creepjs/

    2. What operating system are you running? I see some discourse online about even Tor being identified as long as it’s run on Windows 11, but in Linux it is not identified.

      https://old.reddit.com/r/TOR/comments/113ukg9/is_creepjs_able_to_break_tor_antifingerprinting/

    3. Under prediction, what is the crowd-blending score you see? In mullvad, I see 75% ©, in my other browsers I see 60% or less (D/F). Admittedly, I don’t fully understand this section too much. I was under the impression that 0% here was a good thing, but the way you described it is the opposite. Trying to locate clarification on this and will edit when/if I find it. Edit: from the README it says failing = unique, but also goes on to say that a lower trust score is not necessarily bad. I’m still a bit confused at exactly what this is telling me, especially when I’m being clearly lumped in with a lot of other users in Mullvad, and very clearly being unique in Firefox. Yet, both datasets are almost entirely 0% under Predicitions.

    4. And just to round it out, I’m curious what you see for the visits count at the top, and when the first visit was. When I’m in Mullvad, the visits count is almost touching 1000, and the first visit was at the beginning of January. These are definitely not me, as I have only run the test a handful of times, and yesterday was the first time I had ever used or heard of creepjs.


    I still think there is potentially something I am misunderstanding about creepjs, so I may be wrong here. From what I understand, if the FP ID changes, visits is at 1, and first visit is timestamped right now, then you likely have been identified. The FP ID changing or remaining the same doesn’t really indicate anything without the context of the rest of the data, especially the visits counter. It’s clear that I am being lumped in with many, many other users.


    Lastly, I think that you are making yourself standout from the crowd by manually installing the dark reader plugin (I assume that’s what you meant). That defeats the purpose and is likely why you are being identified so quickly. There’s a reason why Mullvad and Tor don’t make it easy to install plugins, and also why they recommend not maximizing the browser window. They actually specifically force the viewport to be a specific resolution, even if you maximize. This makes you look even more like everyone else, because out-of-the-box you are configured the same as everyone else. As soon as you add anything unique, you become unique.