The opening statement is also quite silly already (and makes me belief in a companion to the dead internet theory, the dementia internet theory, as I was sure we have had conversations like this as ‘the internet’ already, Zuck turning manospherian all of a sudden also makes me thing this (same with the fight over H-1B on the US right, they had that in 2018 already, Trump likes H-1B)).

We had the whole ‘they act like they are morally superior’ discussion already a lot, and that was about vegans. Only one problem, they are morally superior on almost all ethical/moral/ideological systems you can think of. Sure hedonists, stoics (who are not allowed to complain), sadists, accelerationist extinctionists, ironic nihilistic status quo pushing postmodernists, all disagree they are superior morally but who cares about the opinion of those people. Sure some of them might be annoying to people, but annoying people can be morally superior.

His statements about how politically correctness comes from the 80’s is also wrong (it predates that, and has quite a complex history of being used by various different groups for different meanings), but at that moment I knew I was going to be wasting my time reading this as I would disagree with every paragraph. (as I have seen these types of articles before, they were popular a decade ago or so).

E:

Thanks to Sam Altman, Ben Miller, Daniel Gackle, Robin Hanson, Jessica Livingston, Greg Lukianoff, Harj Taggar, Garry Tan, and Tim Urban for reading drafts of this. {emph mine, the names that really jumped out to me]

Ah. Also 1 name which jumps out to me as prob a woman. Let me google her. Ah right. His wife, and co-founder.

With risk of falling into the ‘classify people into two binary groups’ thing which I have often criticized the Rationalist for. Move over jock vs nerd. There is Jock vs Creep.

Considering popes, priests in general, politicians etc are usually male (historically) i have a feeling these quotes also exclude some groups from being moral enforcers.

It also neatly ignores social pressures, which provides good reasons for women being into certain types of ‘moral enforcement’. Either because ‘it is their duty to protect the kids’ or the revolutionary idea that people are all people and should have equal rites, bodily autonomy, a political voice etc.

But nope: “me and the boys agree, this wokeness stuff is for girls”.

This all makes me wonder, we know he has proofreaders who help him. Did he either get rid of all the people who disagree with him, or did they give up, as some people dont want understand the other side they just want to argue their forever cause they believe they are correct (so disagreement is a massive waste of time).

He has two sisters, and one of them wrote a book about the manosphere/redpill (from a non rw way) shit in 2018. So fam gatherings will be wild.

Really? Right in the front of the clean new thread?

Depends on your perspective I guess, like if you imagine there are really ‘we should destroy the internet and go back to the imaginary golden age before the internet’ people those would be reactionary on that subject. I have never seen anybody honestly like that however.

On his reactionary side: I don’t get how his allies, he can stand them. I mean he must know they will come after him next. We know what they think of lgbt people.

Well, all tech shit is inevitable after all. (In their minds) see how they talk about the slop generators. (Or that ‘if I don’t steal the home somebody else will’ guy).

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Dindt he write a book on how democracy is over? Or incompatible with the modern world or something.

About that bad precedent, the next game. And yes the game is fun, in a niche way. It is sad the ai art draws everything down. It always has a weird tonal mismatch with the rest and the names of the cards, and it is wet.

Erannorth Chronicles the problem is esp the last two dlc, which suddenly have graphics of the cards who don’t match. I tried to upload a pretty glaring example but it didn’t work atm. But you can also see it at the main page of the game, compare the page with all the cards on it. With this image, quite sad, esp as soon as you start to notice it (and how often the AI art doesn’t make sense) it just pulls you out of the game.

Thiel has fully lost it, and as I assume nobody around him has warned him about how crazy this manifesto found after the shooting oped in the ft makes him sound, so do the people around him.

Yes it has had good ideas. As rationalwiki said. The good ideas are not new, and the new ideas are not good.

<insert rant about lizardman constant here again>, and I say that as a person with a sat score of 1650!

E: ow god the first comments are ‘actually you and scott underestimate the derived IQ’

E: in other related new turns out Cephalopods have a higher IQ that the people on themotte. Article unrelated, just thought it was neat.

With betting markets I often think, so they have all just forgotten the idea of assassination markets?

So as libgen is blocked here in .nl by various providers (mine calls it thepiratebay for some reason), i look forward to all their llm being blocked.

Now the new language merely bans “unsupported comparisons” between protected groups’ on the basis of their “inherent intellectual capacity”

Im sure we all noticed that this is also exactly one of those things which was allowed in the Rationalist places. And one of the reasons that it took them forever to get rid of slurinnameO on the ssc subreddit (E: He now moved to twitter where he has a terrifying 200k followers (cremieuxrecueil if you want to block the shithead)).

That sadly has not been my experience. I recall people on some gaming reddits being all ‘you cannot stop the coming tide’ re AI. And also recently got an indie game after nobody mentioned that the dev was using AI art for it (esp the recent updates, it also really sucks the art I mean) in the thread about it. But yes some of them are good on it, not a single entity after all

Im sure the Gamers (capital g intentional, derogatory) will love it. And then act really confused when games feel unresponsive, weird and floaty, and blame this on the devs and not their graphics card which is hallucinating most of the frames.

There even is a SSC post talking about how even professionally ran surveys have a 5% rate of bullshit (the lizardman constant, mentioned by Scott in 2013, and now in a lot more places (I think the idea is fine, just that Scott seems to draw a few to generalizing conclusions (in the article, not the conclusion) about classifying people as trolls/malicious vs 'sometimes people give a trollish/malicious answer. I also don’t think the percentage is constant)). (Yes, SSC style Rationalists not internalizing the SSC lore is one of my pet peeves). And as Amoeba_girl said, this is the highlight of the post.

E: and as the LC was written in 2013, I really don’t want to know how often Rationalists/LWers/etc have referred to a poll after that as being important. (And how often they have used the LC to dismiss polls used as arguments by others).