We need to look at this thing called ‘adapting in place’. I think this is just such a complicated situation that people just need to figure out what’s going on around them, at least for the time being. Radical simplification - corporate greed, yes, but it’s still complicated as to what exactly we do about it.

And there’s the fascism.

I’m providing my perspective. It’s valid. Not trolling.

Seems like an overwhelming number of you are sex negative and thus poorly educated on here. Lemmy sure has turned out to be a disappointing website since I started on here. At least I know where Lemmy stands. Improve yourselves, please. You have more literature to read. More to learn.

Are you serious?

I actually have mental health struggles. I take meds every day. I’m at baseline. When someone says “seek help” and I’m fine it’s insulting and demeaning. I’m doing nothing wrong. You’re being rude to me. This whole thread is about a food crisis that a lot of people on here agree is happening, most in fact, and you are in denial of their experience with this aggressive rhetoric. If you think oil production is unrelated to food production there are better ways to express yourself on that.

You are so incredibly mean.

I think you are part of that other completely different culture that is now colliding with ours and we just have no clue how to talk to you people and you have no clue how to talk to us. You seem very rude to me. What makes sense to you and which you take for granted seems completely nonsensical to me, and vice versa. I don’t even know where to begin. It’s like you’re speaking a different language entirely.

It feels like you’re incessantly going after me in a bad faith discussion style.

I’m confused. What do you want evidence for? Seems like various common knowledge being mentioned. And why do you think I’m making some big argument? I’m trying to have a broader discussion, more like brainstorming, not a debate. Why all the fuss?

I’m referring to shale oil peaking. That’s the only reason oil production has increased in the United States recently - shale oil production increasing massively over the last decade. I saw something that seemed to indicate the US shale oil peaking which would be a major factor in food production going forward and may have spooked the markets and thereby disrupted supply chains. What do you think I mean by ‘factor’ or ‘depends heavily on’? When someone is brainstorming it’s common courtesy not to get all dismissive and degrading, also basic decency.

What? What do you think I mean by that? I’m making a basic statement about reality that seems foreign to you, not one of those mystical things people say. All of these factors in agriculture are intertwined especially the way in which oil pervades the production process.

Everything is connected.

There is a broader crisis at work you should really be aware of. Watch ‘Collapse’. It’s a great documentary centered on the work of sustainability activist Michael Ruppert that gets into this.

What are you talking about? It’s a major factor. I didn’t say it was the only factor.

Literally agriculture depends heavily on oil.

Agriculture depends heavily on oil.

Yeah around there. I’ll check it out.

What do you mean you don’t see the relevance of shale oil production?

If I don’t starve before then.