Luigi Mangione did not do anything. He allegedly killed someone. He is innocent until he is proven guilty. You cant assume that just because someone is suspected for committing a crime, they actually committed the crime
You forgot the last part of that phrase: innocent until proven guilty IN A COURT OF LAW. We are not in a court of law, we’re in the the court of public opinions, where I can, and will, say I think he did it. Doesn’t mean I think he did anything wrong though.
Okay, this isn’t a court and it’s absolutely fine for people in casual conversation to say he did something when there’s strong evidence that he did.
Strictly speaking if he yelled ‘I did it and I’d do it again’ at the cameras on his way into court, he’d still be ‘innocent till proven guilty’ but no one would insist that actually meant he ‘hadn’t done it’. EDIT: Actually, strictly speaking, he’d still be ‘innocent’ under a strict definition after pleading guilty but before the jury pronounced him so.
In any case, as to our wider discussion, you’d then be disagreeing with many of the people here and arguing that people painted his face on a wall because he didn’t do anything.
Luigi Mangione did not do anything. He allegedly killed someone. He is innocent until he is proven guilty. You cant assume that just because someone is suspected for committing a crime, they actually committed the crime
You forgot the last part of that phrase: innocent until proven guilty IN A COURT OF LAW. We are not in a court of law, we’re in the the court of public opinions, where I can, and will, say I think he did it. Doesn’t mean I think he did anything wrong though.
Okay, this isn’t a court and it’s absolutely fine for people in casual conversation to say he did something when there’s strong evidence that he did.
Strictly speaking if he yelled ‘I did it and I’d do it again’ at the cameras on his way into court, he’d still be ‘innocent till proven guilty’ but no one would insist that actually meant he ‘hadn’t done it’. EDIT: Actually, strictly speaking, he’d still be ‘innocent’ under a strict definition after pleading guilty but before the jury pronounced him so.
In any case, as to our wider discussion, you’d then be disagreeing with many of the people here and arguing that people painted his face on a wall because he didn’t do anything.