I’m sure there are lots of ASU fans here but personally I don’t trust them.
They need to announce the formation of a new party
Due to political entrenchment it’s more reasonable to change the DNC from within.
They’ve tried and failed which is why it’s not worth doing. Democratic party is part of the Nazi agenda
I think we haven’t tried all that hard. We haven’t even elected more than 50 DNC since 2013.
If we want to elect young progressive new democrats then we have to…
elect new democrats…
Thinking like this is why you are where you are with all those nukes. Form a party. Let more parties form. Ditch MSM and CSM (Centralised Social Media) and let the people decide.
If you want to have a country without kings, you need to be prepared to have absolutely no daddy on any front, including parties and media.
What about Nukes, exactly?
That dude with his long red thin napkin has the codes now last I heard.
The ones that are in charge will not allow anyone that is a threat to their authority or power to mount any attempt to change the party.
You forgot to switch to your alt again, Tankie.
Because that worked so well with the Reform party in the UK.
Well… Considering that following the election, it was the third largest party by popular vote… It worked wonders for the Reform Party.
Which means it has the third largest number of representatives, right?
Bernie is already 3rd party
Then we need a fourth! /s
That would guarantee more Republican wins
I’d have agreed with you pre-2025. But I could see it now. The Dems have been letting us down over and over again. We need a party that cuts out billionaire money and promises to enforce the same on all politicians once they take power.
It could still be something like 40% third party 15% democrats and 45% republicans, unless Republicans split as well, a third party can only make the “left” weaker.
We see it in Europe in countries where the left parties refuse to create alliances for ideological reasons.
It’s actually exactly how the Weimar Republic fell giving rise to the Nazis. The right was united enough to form a government after the splintered left and center failed multiple times consecutively.
Either that it would result in the Democratic party collapsing entirely, why would anyone vote for it if there was a better alternative available? You might see the Republicans win an election or two but that happens anyways
The problem is, it is very hard to win elections without money. So a party that cuts out billionaire spending is less likely to win while also splitting the dem vote.
The Democrats wanted to tax the rich and they still got way more donations than Trump, but all of that pales in comparison to buying out Twitter.
You don’t have to be poor to see that Republicans are a threat to us all.
Democrats outraised trump and still lost.
You need to not tell your voters to fuck off if you can imagine that.
The DNC didn’t have foreign bot farms and billionaires on their side.
Elon literally bought votes but you don’t count that when you say “outraised Trump”.
The DNC didn’t have foreign bot farms and billionaires on their side.
I know! Maybe if they abandon everyone that you don’t care about and focus only on the bot farms and billionaires that you do care about, they’ll win!
Democrats can’t keep moving to the right like you want them to. They hit a wall. They peeled off none of the republican votes you envy. But they got to throw people you hate under the bus, so it’s good for you.
Splitting the dem vote implies that Democrats are entitled to all votes, not Republican. They have never done anything to earn mine. And after lurching far to the right, like they did this last election, I can’t see how anyone thinks that they have earned their vote.
Then you will get more Trump and the GOP and fascism
Doing things your way did just that.
Dems have won the majority of elections since the 90s. Biden/Harris lost because of inflation.
Republicans lost by waaay more in 2020. If they followed your mentality they would’ve lost in 2024. Instead they doubled down and won.
The DNC gave us Trump and fascism.
Na. That was fake leftists screeching “genicide Joe” and claiming both sides are the same.
Keeping the dnc intact ensures that government is run by Republicans.
Republicans didn’t win because the DNC couldn’t attract more voters on the center and right. Republicans didn’t win because more people joined them in 2024, their numbers barely changed at all. Republicans won because leftists stayed home.
Because we refused to empower the DNC. Because the left splintered.
How so? Republicans lost by a lot more in 2020 than dems lost by in 2024.
The Republicans are literally couping the government as we speak
No.
Why are you posting irrelevant bullshit? We’re not talking about running a “third party” candidate. We’re talking about destroying the Democratic party and rebuilding it into something that isn’t traitorous and corrupt.
it’s time for the Democrats to go the way of the Whigs.
Sounds like you’re warming up for the next election when you’ll be trying to convince people not to vote or vote 3rd party.
This logic of yours? Has it actually resulted in snowing or stopping fascism? Now it hasn’t. Maybe it’s time we try something different than what’s obviously not working
Sounds like you’re trying to dismiss my argument out of hand by associating me with the pro-fascist concern trolls and their useful idiots who did that in this previous election. You can fuck all the way off with that dishonest, ad-hominem bullshit.
There’s a huge fucking difference between abandoning a candidate in the middle of the election with fuck-all for alternatives, and trying to reform or replace the party with literally as much margin as possible before the next election. If now is not the right time to try to get shit done, when is? Tell me that, O Great Arbiter of Political Acceptability!
You need to quit your bullshit, and on top of that you owe me a goddamn apology.
More wins than they already won?
Of course
Sheepdog in training being taught by seasoned sheepdog.
