The president and his GOP cronies want to tamper with government statistics and use deceptive budget gimmicks to lie about the impact of their massive tax and budget cuts.
Are they though? “Idiot Biden, sleepy Joe as they say, left us a terrible economy, terrible, this is the worst economy we’ve ever seen. Poor America. But I have very bright minds, the smartest minds, hard at work on it. To fix the economy, we’re gonna make it all better.”
I’m pretty sure you were not necessarily quoting him directly, but I would point out that he and his apparatchiks have literally said such things, including how Biden’s economy, which was by objective measurements (yeah, I know they are imperfect) the "envy of the world, was AXETUALLY the “worst” economy ever.
Which is just such ridiculous nonsense. Meanwhile, donvict takes actions that have consequences, one of which is crashing the economy and they expect us to sit there and believe such nonsense? I know a lot of idiots won’t even bother to look it up, even if it’s just a graph of the S&P, but holy shit, that is some next-level, Orwellian-type brazen lying.
trumpers can blame biden all they want. You can’t deny an empty belly, and if the president is saying everything is great while the evidence to the contrary is literally visceral, that’s not gonna work for long. Just look at how well doing that exact thing worked out for biden and harris.
I suspect that trump will try it anyway and once it fails, he’ll pick the next entry on the “then they came for” list and start blaming them.
But want the economy doing good under Biden? Sure you had inflation but at a much lower scale then most of the world. I don’t get why you think it was bad? Or am I missing something.
Most people are too stupid to realize that the economy is like a massive cargo ship, it was on a course set by Trump when Biden got elected, and it took nearly 4 years for Biden to change course. Now that’s just the first step. You have to then wait for the ship to get out of the storm and reach it’s destination, which is where the disconnect lays. We’re all still seeing the storm and feeling the rain, and the ship bobbing in huge waves, and Biden was telling us that everything was getting better. He wasn’t wrong
People just don’t realize how long it takes to get out of the storm even after the course has been corrected.
Date Rape Donny on the other hand is steering us straight into the storm, while telling us it doesn’t exist
For changes in the economy like those, you really need a two term president: one term to lay the groundwork and the second to “stay the course” to reap the benefits.
This is also where Harris’ response of not wanting to change anything is the best choice. She would have seen the benefits and received credit for Biden’s groundwork.
Its difficult to get this across, especially since so many voters don’t have the respective or patience to look beyond immediate needs
Depends on how you define the economy. The economy won’t be good in the eyes of the average person until there has been a huge redistribution of wealth back to lower classes.
I am so refreshed being here. I hate Trump. But bidens magical economy was not reality, myself and many of my circle all in very high demand sectors spent longer unemployed than any other time in history. People were hungry and unable to pay bills. Who was benefitting from his economy? Only the ultra wealthy. I just don’t see it. And I feel gaslit when people say bidens economy was so good. Trumps is worse of course but we haven’t even reached a minimum.
The economy was doing well, but as we see in these comments that it’s tough to communicate things like
inflation is back near normal: all the increases since Covid suck, but prices shouldn’t increase that fast anymore
businesses and stock market doing well, even though we’re not republicans
working hard to contain avian flu, even if it means eggs will be expensive for a few years
huge investments in bringing manufacturing back to the US. Factories being built. So many new jobs … in a few years
huge investments to bring back new technology leadership we threw away. Factories and labs being built. So many new jobs … in a few years
finally making good progress limiting carbon emissions. Avoid the worst parts of climate change
huge investments in rebuilding ancient falling apart infrastructure, we can’t keep putting it off … even if it likely wouldn’t actually fail in our term
great international cooperation toward peace and security
saving literally millions of lives of the poorest humans, saving untold misery, devastation from disease, starvation, abject poverty
improving health care coverage for millions of Americans
first steps toward getting excessive educational inflation under control.
first steps toward rebuilding a network of intercity rail connecting us all
and many more
Yet this is already a wall of text many would ignore
“You’re not suffering! There are other places that have it worse!” is messaging bereft of empathy.
Better messaging would be to admit the economy sucks, making no excuses but without unnecessarily accepting blame, and put forth a vision forward. Denying the obvious is just an admission of not being up to the task.
They convinced enough people that crime was rampant because of illegals when crime was down and immigrants (illegal or legal) are less likely to commit crimes.
The problem with the Biden economy was that the conventional economic measures were good, but groceries still went up. Effectively, this already didn’t work for Biden, even though Biden technically wasn’t lying.
Are they though? “Idiot Biden, sleepy Joe as they say, left us a terrible economy, terrible, this is the worst economy we’ve ever seen. Poor America. But I have very bright minds, the smartest minds, hard at work on it. To fix the economy, we’re gonna make it all better.”
I’m pretty sure you were not necessarily quoting him directly, but I would point out that he and his apparatchiks have literally said such things, including how Biden’s economy, which was by objective measurements (yeah, I know they are imperfect) the "envy of the world, was AXETUALLY the “worst” economy ever.
Which is just such ridiculous nonsense. Meanwhile, donvict takes actions that have consequences, one of which is crashing the economy and they expect us to sit there and believe such nonsense? I know a lot of idiots won’t even bother to look it up, even if it’s just a graph of the S&P, but holy shit, that is some next-level, Orwellian-type brazen lying.
trumpers can blame biden all they want. You can’t deny an empty belly, and if the president is saying everything is great while the evidence to the contrary is literally visceral, that’s not gonna work for long. Just look at how well doing that exact thing worked out for biden and harris.
I suspect that trump will try it anyway and once it fails, he’ll pick the next entry on the “then they came for” list and start blaming them.
But want the economy doing good under Biden? Sure you had inflation but at a much lower scale then most of the world. I don’t get why you think it was bad? Or am I missing something.
Most people are too stupid to realize that the economy is like a massive cargo ship, it was on a course set by Trump when Biden got elected, and it took nearly 4 years for Biden to change course. Now that’s just the first step. You have to then wait for the ship to get out of the storm and reach it’s destination, which is where the disconnect lays. We’re all still seeing the storm and feeling the rain, and the ship bobbing in huge waves, and Biden was telling us that everything was getting better. He wasn’t wrong People just don’t realize how long it takes to get out of the storm even after the course has been corrected.
Date Rape Donny on the other hand is steering us straight into the storm, while telling us it doesn’t exist
For changes in the economy like those, you really need a two term president: one term to lay the groundwork and the second to “stay the course” to reap the benefits.
This is also where Harris’ response of not wanting to change anything is the best choice. She would have seen the benefits and received credit for Biden’s groundwork.
Its difficult to get this across, especially since so many voters don’t have the respective or patience to look beyond immediate needs
Depends on how you define the economy. The economy won’t be good in the eyes of the average person until there has been a huge redistribution of wealth back to lower classes.
And that won’t happen under an oligarchy, because Trickle Down economics is a lie.
I am so refreshed being here. I hate Trump. But bidens magical economy was not reality, myself and many of my circle all in very high demand sectors spent longer unemployed than any other time in history. People were hungry and unable to pay bills. Who was benefitting from his economy? Only the ultra wealthy. I just don’t see it. And I feel gaslit when people say bidens economy was so good. Trumps is worse of course but we haven’t even reached a minimum.
The economy was doing well, but as we see in these comments that it’s tough to communicate things like
Yet this is already a wall of text many would ignore
“You’re not suffering! There are other places that have it worse!” is messaging bereft of empathy.
Better messaging would be to admit the economy sucks, making no excuses but without unnecessarily accepting blame, and put forth a vision forward. Denying the obvious is just an admission of not being up to the task.
They convinced enough people that crime was rampant because of illegals when crime was down and immigrants (illegal or legal) are less likely to commit crimes.
The problem with the Biden economy was that the conventional economic measures were good, but groceries still went up. Effectively, this already didn’t work for Biden, even though Biden technically wasn’t lying.
It became evident how out of touch biden and then later harris were.
EDIT: extraneous “how”