• Deceptichum@quokk.au
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        1 day ago

        We’ve had zero left wing, so wouldn’t have a fucking clue what you’re on about mate.

          • shirro@aussie.zone
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            edit-2
            11 hours ago

            No. They are center. They were way ahead of the coalition on market friendly economic reforms, floating the dollar, abandoning many tarriffs, reducing subsidies, privatizing the comm bank etc. It wasn’t until Howard that the coalition started to catch up and Labor still take a very responsible and balanced approach to economic management.

            To be fair radical left wing politics has not been competitive in the world and wouldn’t be competitive politically here. They can’t maintain the economic productivity needed to deliver wealth and quality of life improvements demanded by working people so they always end up in autocracy or revolution. That is why social democracy thrived and why China has a successful mixed system. The problem is maintaining the balance between social policy and capitalist wealth creation. The social policy side is constantly undermined by the ultra rich, lobby groups and the flip flop election cycle and people start to take things like public healthcare and education for granted.

            • Whirlybird@aussie.zone
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              1
              ·
              11 hours ago

              What we call left and right wing are centre-left and centre-right. Neither extreme works, and neither party are extreme. Some, mainly the centre-left, are starting to dabble with extreme opinions - “gender identity” and mass immigration for example - but neither are full “left wing” or “right wing”.

              It’s not just my “conceptualization”, it’s the public perception.

    • eureka@aussie.zone
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      3
      ·
      1 day ago

      Yes, and abstaining only gives them a larger proportion of the votes.

      Find the left wing candidates (the senate has some even if your local ballot doesn’t) and preference them, if you want to help keep out Lib and Lab.

    • vividspecter@lemm.eeOP
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      0
      ·
      edit-2
      8 hours ago

      The ordering of how right wing they are matters. That’s the whole point of preferential voting.

      If you abstain from ranking all candidates, you are acting the same as US voters claiming that “both sides are the same” and then not voting, particularly if your preferred minor candidate(s) don’t have a chance of winning in your electorate.