Considering to buy one for a family member.
Vaping didn’t help me quit, lozenges and lining up my quitting date with some dental work that you’re not supposed to smoke with was what finally worked for me.
Yes! I smoked for over 20 years. I didn’t think I’d ever be able to quit. I started vaping with the goal of quitting, and eventually quit! Then I quit vaping too, about six months later. It’s an excellent cessation method, with almost a 70% success rate. The next closest cessation method has a success rate of 3% and is owned by the tobacco companies.
Get a device that hits like a cigarette. This means mouth to lung, and not a big DTL cloud machine. It also ideally means a round mouthpiece. Make sure it’s good enough to give throat hit, but not so good that it produces massive clouds. Ideally you want a device that is not sub-ohm. Start with 18mg tobacco flavored juice. Then just vape. Sometimes you’ll smoke cigarettes, and sometimes you’ll vape. Don’t beat yourself up when you smoke, but try to vape more than you smoke. Before you know it, you’ll be reaching for the vape more than the cigarettes, until you don’t reach for cigarettes at all. Then you’re free!
Once you’re free, wait a month and then cut the juice down to 12mg, then 6, then 3, then a mix of 0 and 3, then 0! After a couple weeks of 0 you’ll just naturally quit, no discipline required.
Share this information with the person you know, and tell them that if I could do it, anyone can do it!
Edit: for such a device I recommend the Geekvape B coil series, in higher ohm ranges.
Yes. I moved from cigarettes to vape about five years ago. I was steadily reducing vaping to quit entirely before the pan happened and I allowed myself to continue vaping to aid anxiety. I have not attempted to quit since.
Yes, it just took me about 5 years of on and off vaping 😅. Vaping is a much better addiction to have than smoking though.
You can try but some people are allergic to the liquids used. And the person vaping has to slowly decrease the nicotine amount over time, a lot of people start increasing it instead and end up with more unhealthy nicotine levels than regular cigs. Also vaping is not good for the lungs either.
While it may not stop the nicotine addiction. It beats the tar and crap actual cigarettes…
Agreed. Although I struggle with vaping nicotine WAY too much and I feel like it has caused me some issues.
Still, way better than real cigs as far as my lungs are concerned - but the ease of being able to vape and constantly get a nicotine fix has been the real issue for me. Currently reading Alan Carr’s the Easy Way to get this monkey off my back once and for all.
Absolutely, there is no mistaking vaping is bad for you. But there are levels of bad.
Additionally, there has not been enough legit science data to indicate how bad it is.
The biggest risk we see (outside the risks that are the same as those from cigarettes but less severe) is circulatory health risks (vessel function). Sure, you have increased risk of respiratory disease, but not nearly as bad as cigarettes. The real benefit is that most vaporizers and eliquids are not carcinogenic (directly cancer causing) the way cigarette smoking is, so you can lose the added chance of getting cancer while titrating nicotine dosage down to nothing over a longer period; one of the main failure points of nicotine gums and patches is that they aren’t effective methods for pack-a-day smokers, the usual suggested regimens have them in withdrawal headaches and brain fog quickly and many smokers quit quitting on week one or two.
We have dozens of ten year studies with HUGE N already. Read them. Check out the REPRIEVE trial data. If you seriously think every single one of the currently available studies and trial results are not “legit science data” you’re insane.
I did, not sure it made it easier though. It took away two negatives for smoking for me, it didn’t smell bad to others and I could smoke inside.
If anything it made it harder to quit, but they’re supposedly much better for you
Regardless of the health benefits for you personally, they’re much better and less unpleasant for those around you.
I’m not sure that vaping inside is better than smoking outside. You’re right about it being more pleasant and likely right about it being healthier, do you know of any research comparing second hand smoke on clothes to second hand vape (comparing smoking outside to vaping inside)
I quit smoking cigarettes after moving to vape but vape isn’t better for you so, it’s just reading one for another.
It is absolutely better for you. Whomever told you that it isn’t, is probably reading tobacco company propaganda.
Check out SmokeFree.gov! It has great free resources that are science based. Quitting smoking is the number thing someone who smokes can do for their health.
The most effective methods to quit smoking include varenicline (aka Chantix), FDA-approved nicotine replacement therapies (gum, patch, lozenge, inhaler, etc), and behavioral therapy. Combining all of these therapies in a clinical trials results in the most people quitting.
No vape is FDA-approved as a cessation therapy, because no company has applied. There have been some small academic run trials, which tend to show a decrease in smoking, but continued nicotine addiction. Probably because vapes have much higher nicotine content than FDA-approved therapies. While vapes expose people to a lot less carcinogens than smoke, there are some carcinogens and nicotine itself is harmful to vascular and mental health. So if the evidence-based methods don’t work, completely switching to vaping would be less harmful.
Agreed. There is a lot of new research on vaping. Could potentially cause a number of issues, but probably still better than actual smoking. I’ve heard the inhalers work sometimes because of the nicotine as well as the physical movements involved.
I’ve also seen exactly one ad (on YouTube) for some sort of flavour inhaler (no nicotine) if you’re having trouble with the physical aspect. Can’t say any more about that though, as I haven’t looked into it.
Those are bullshit. Look at the cessation success rate of those methods, and then look at vape. Vape is almost 70% success rate, and those other methods are like 3%. The tobacco companies own most of those methods. Don’t listen to some stupid sponsored study for this, listen to the people who have done it. Vaping is a successful cessation method, and all of the attempts to ban it have been driven by lobbying & dark money from the tobacco companies.
I look at independent randomized controlled trials, not anecdotal evidence. Here’s a recent trial from Finland that didn’t have industry funding. They compared low-nicotine vaping vs varenicline alone vs placebo. Both varenicline and vaping resulted in about 40% of people quitting at 12 weeks, and 20% of placebo group. So add nicotine replacement therapy and behavioral therapy on top of varenicline and the rates should go higher. Pfizer and other pharmaceutical companies sell most of the FDA-approved cessation therapies, and in comparison the big tobacco companies sell vapes.
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Yup.
An older friend who smoke and drank a ton switched to vapes, and methodically lowered the nicotine content every two-there weeks for months, then stopper nicotine and vaped the flavours but as there was no more nicotine, the habit wasn’t addicting and he just forgot about it more or less.
Now he’s been alone free for years, and reduced his drinking as well. Looks fucking healthy now.
100% yes. It made a big difference for me. I didn’t even want to stop smoking I just did.
Depends on what part of it you’re addicted to.
I just want nicotine. I don’t care out of what.
Some people want the feel, sensation and flavor of a cigarette.
I just want my fix so I can carry on with my day.
That’s kinda the line between moving to a vape or not.
Cosign, I just liked the smoking myself. Vapes made it worse if anything cus it made smoking more conventent 😂 no ash, ashtray or lighter thats somehow always missing.
Also being able to do it indoors without practically any negative side effect doesn’t help lol
Yes. I switched to vaping after smoking a pack a day for ten years. Then in about a year I was able to winnow my usage down and quit vaping too.
I had tried many times to quit before that. Have not smoked in 13 years now and after about 8 years I stopped liking the smell.
Crazy hearing vaping helped you stop 13 years ago. My brain tells me they only came out 2 years ago…
Vaping blew up around 2010 and gradually increased in popularity until all of the Juul controversies happened. Since all of the laws passed to restrict it more, it is now easier to get a non-reusable piece of ewaste than reusable and refillable stuff.
Naw there were vapes when i went to high school in the mid to late 2000s.
Yup.
I smoked a pack a day for roughly 30 years. My night time breathing was getting ugly and my wife would sometimes get woken up by the sound of my wheezing.
Every method of quitting failed me except vaping. I started as most do with a high nicotine vape juice that tasted like tobacco, but after about a month I swapped and started going lower and lower nicotine and change the flavor from tobacco to a custardy type.
2 months of that got me off the cigs. Two more months got me down to zero nicotine. Two or three more months after that I was done.
I have been off cigs for 7 years.
My breathing no longer feels wet or difficult at night. And My yearly health tests all come back the same as a non-smoker.
20 years ago I quit smoking with chewing tobacco aka dip. That shit is WAY better than cigarettes. Dip was even harder to quit. Then I went back to off and on cigarettes for 18 years. I have not had one in a year and a half and have no intention or desire to ever start that shit up again. Welbutrin is also pretty helpful for this. My best friend did mostly quit by switching to vape though, so I think it can work. I’m pretty sure it’s also just as bad for you though?
Now they have those nicotine pouches that are even better.
