Admin from LemmyNSFW here, not the one that posted but an admin nonetheless.
I’m not really down with this being presented as drama as some are trying to, it’s unfortunate the way it played out but overall its their choice to defederate. We actively encourage other instances who forbid pornography to defederate from us. Lemmy.ml, sopuli, etc etc we are totally fine with, we have no malice or hate towards them because thats their choice and their reasons and concerns for doing so are more than legitimate especially with how limited lemmy is right now and the locations that they host their site at. We have open discussions with other instance admins and welcome discussions of their potential concerns, it’s just we didn’t really know what the concerns were beyond “this looks wrong because it looks wrong delete it” which made it extremely frustrating to try to figure out concisely what the problem was so we could address it.
My only issue is it being presented as if we are fine with CSAM, when we aren’t and to be accused of that is extremely serious.
It makes me sad, but it is what it is. I’m trying not to take it personally, but it does sting since I am a gay man, and an LGBT focused instance is a lovely idea in my eyes. We do not have a jailbait community, whatsoever. There are concerns about fauxbait that we are actively discussing and navigating. It did bring up a good conversation on that end at least.
I really want to thank you for the levelheadedness you’re bringing in.
Perhaps that’s a learned behaviour from other networks where drama=engagement=upvotes. I don’t know. But reading your comment filled me with gratitude.
It’s reassuring to see these technicalities being taken for what they are. Different people have different needs. Understanding that makes respecting those needs something simple and natural. Each to their own, right?
I just wish I had a way to block your entire instance and all your users and this wouldn’t be a problem. I agree with the accusations and want nothing to do with you and your weird porn shit.
I know it may seem like empty platitudes, but I want to make it clear for anyone reading this that our entire team agrees with more native ways in lemmy to block our instance as well as ways for instances to limit our content from federating into the all page. The fact that there is a lack of distinction between NSFW and pornographic content is extremely problematic as well, and ideally long term lemmy will receive content warnings like other activitypub platforms.
Porn isn’t for everyone, but people are going to seek it out regardless. A space such as lemmyNSFW needs to exist to allow the people who seek such content out to be able to do so in a safe and controlled environment that focuses consent as a key principle. And in line with having the key princple being consent, making sure people who do not want to see content from our instance are able to block such content with ease is a no brainer.
Our team has also taken a step back and looked to what critiques there are in regard to our instance, as well as preemptively engaging with other instance admins as well. The conversations being had are important, and we are actively figuring out how to best navigate them.
Also, heres a reply I made 20 days ago to the connect apps comm when a proposal was made to block instances. Where I reiterate what I said above.
https://lemmy.ca/comment/857085
So, first, just turn off “show NSFW” in your profile settings, but yes, even then I agree there really needs to be a way for users to block instances. Defederating is such a massive thing. Having more granular options would be nice. I don’t think it would’ve changed this particular case but it can change more.
On a non-serious note, I’ve never heard it referenced as a “meatball menu” and I absolutely love it. It makes sense given the similar term “hamburger menu” too!
I’m not gay, I just think porn is a net negative, promotes violence and sex trafficking and the people who view it enough to join a porn lemmy instance are losers who spend way too much time masturbating alone. I don’t want to associate and talk to these people while thinking about recipes and news, Keep your perverted loser shit to yourself
Admin from LemmyNSFW here, not the one that posted but an admin nonetheless.
I’m not really down with this being presented as drama as some are trying to, it’s unfortunate the way it played out but overall its their choice to defederate. We actively encourage other instances who forbid pornography to defederate from us. Lemmy.ml, sopuli, etc etc we are totally fine with, we have no malice or hate towards them because thats their choice and their reasons and concerns for doing so are more than legitimate especially with how limited lemmy is right now and the locations that they host their site at. We have open discussions with other instance admins and welcome discussions of their potential concerns, it’s just we didn’t really know what the concerns were beyond “this looks wrong because it looks wrong delete it” which made it extremely frustrating to try to figure out concisely what the problem was so we could address it.
My only issue is it being presented as if we are fine with CSAM, when we aren’t and to be accused of that is extremely serious.
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Apparently women are able to be independent and fully able to choose, but only up to the point we allow them
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It makes me sad, but it is what it is. I’m trying not to take it personally, but it does sting since I am a gay man, and an LGBT focused instance is a lovely idea in my eyes. We do not have a jailbait community, whatsoever. There are concerns about fauxbait that we are actively discussing and navigating. It did bring up a good conversation on that end at least.
I really want to thank you for the levelheadedness you’re bringing in.
Perhaps that’s a learned behaviour from other networks where drama=engagement=upvotes. I don’t know. But reading your comment filled me with gratitude.
It’s reassuring to see these technicalities being taken for what they are. Different people have different needs. Understanding that makes respecting those needs something simple and natural. Each to their own, right?
tl; dr?
Thank you for your levelheadedness.
I just wish I had a way to block your entire instance and all your users and this wouldn’t be a problem. I agree with the accusations and want nothing to do with you and your weird porn shit.
I know it may seem like empty platitudes, but I want to make it clear for anyone reading this that our entire team agrees with more native ways in lemmy to block our instance as well as ways for instances to limit our content from federating into the all page. The fact that there is a lack of distinction between NSFW and pornographic content is extremely problematic as well, and ideally long term lemmy will receive content warnings like other activitypub platforms.
Porn isn’t for everyone, but people are going to seek it out regardless. A space such as lemmyNSFW needs to exist to allow the people who seek such content out to be able to do so in a safe and controlled environment that focuses consent as a key principle. And in line with having the key princple being consent, making sure people who do not want to see content from our instance are able to block such content with ease is a no brainer.
Our team has also taken a step back and looked to what critiques there are in regard to our instance, as well as preemptively engaging with other instance admins as well. The conversations being had are important, and we are actively figuring out how to best navigate them.
Also, heres a reply I made 20 days ago to the connect apps comm when a proposal was made to block instances. Where I reiterate what I said above. https://lemmy.ca/comment/857085
So, first, just turn off “show NSFW” in your profile settings, but yes, even then I agree there really needs to be a way for users to block instances. Defederating is such a massive thing. Having more granular options would be nice. I don’t think it would’ve changed this particular case but it can change more.
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Switch to lemmy.blajah.zone and you’ll never see them again.
Okay, now how do we block blahaj.zone content, as a lemmy.world user?
I’m on Jerboa, but there’s an option to block instances in the meatball menu of a post. I use it to hide foreign language instances like .nl and .de
On a non-serious note, I’ve never heard it referenced as a “meatball menu” and I absolutely love it. It makes sense given the similar term “hamburger menu” too!
What/where is the meatball menu please?
The three little dots on the far left of a comment or post.
Damn, I can only can block users, not instances. Thanks though!
Ah, you’re right, you have to do it on a post.
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Because I don’t care to interact with content from an instance run by Ada.
I’m not gay, I just think porn is a net negative, promotes violence and sex trafficking and the people who view it enough to join a porn lemmy instance are losers who spend way too much time masturbating alone. I don’t want to associate and talk to these people while thinking about recipes and news, Keep your perverted loser shit to yourself