• awderon@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    I’m all for safe substance use if wanted, but vapes are dangerous. I smoked cigarettes, then changed over to vaping and now use snus. Nicotine is a huge problem with it’s addictiveness.

    Vapes in the current state they are sold, are like candy to young people and the shops treat it that way. Vaping makes it easy to consume nicotine, and once your body is addicted it craves more and more. The amount of nicotine in these vapes is obscene. And you can do it everywhere with them. You don’t smell it like cigarettes. You can get vapes in any taste you desire. I consumed way more nicotine when I was vaping than with cigarettes.

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      1 year ago

      I use cannabis to sleep (legally) and consume on moderation, just enough to do the job. While on an extended trip just now, I purchased a cartridge and battery for convenience and to try it out (I normally vape cannabis flower). It was shocking to me how quickly and frequently I would use it if I wasn’t really being strict with myself. The ease of use made it trivial, the amount of product at a high concentration made it something I didn’t have to think about, and it tasted and smelled like blueberry. I’ll ask back to my normal methods but it gave me something to think about. There is still quite a bit left in the cartridge. To your point, it was very affordable, convenient, and psychologically speaking “addictive”.

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        1 year ago

        Yeah the convenience and the flavor are the main problems for me. If the prepackaged vapes would come in non candy flavors, a lot of potential new consumers wouldn’t touch vapes. They should be an alternative for smokers and not a new revenue stream for tobacco conglomerates based on a new generation who know smoking in general is bad.

        If THC vapes are properly vetted and the buyer is informed about possible health impacts I’m totally ok with that.

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          1 year ago

          We can say that, but people also started smoking cigarettes (which arguably don’t taste like candy) as minors. Should we ban all flavoured alcohol too? Alcohol is also addictive and unhealthy. This would mean no more beers, wines, coolers, etc, just watered down alcohol. Does that also sound like a good plan to you? Maybe banning flavours specifically isn’t the only possible solution here.

          It might also be good to try to make kids getting caught smoking more difficult for the parents to deal with than it is for them deal with an angry teen. I mean, these kids are getting these vapes from somewhere. Some kids are getting them from their own parents. Where did parental/social responsibility go? Kids shouldn’t be able to get ANY nicotine in the first place, imo.

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          1 year ago

          I have never tried nicotine vaping but I imagine the ease of consumption and ease of concealing the use of the product are very similar. If you smoke a cigarette, people know. But if you hit a cart, it’s pretty hard to tell even minutes later, especially if outside.

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          1 year ago

          I get you’re just a troll, but to anyone else reading this, this is an Archaic way of looking at addiction.

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      1 year ago

      Saying that vapes are dangerous is misinformation at best. Vaping got you off smoking cigarettes (congrats btw), which are far more dangerous. Yes, you may have consumed more nicotine, but you didn’t consume any of the other thousands of toxic or even carcinogenic chemicals present in cigarette smoke.

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        1 year ago

        I meant dangerous as in that it attracts people who would have never started smoking. While cigarettes are more dangerous, vaping also has it’s drawbacks. The base fluid may be safe to consume, but the flavorings are the problem in my eyes. They appeal to a younger audience and the ingredients are most often not known (Corresponding study if you want to dive deeper: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK507184/#_sec_000093_ )

        Additionally nicotine in itself is not something I would want anyone to be addicted to.