Tribes have always thrived over individuals, and will always. Humans are pretty shit animals; but as a coequal group working towards the same goal? We’re amazing. When we favor individuals, or stratify our groups, we die.
You are once again missing the point: on a person to person basis, in a survival situation, yes, humans are hyper selfless and cooperative. We are not in such a situation. It’s naïve to think that, given a clean start, all 8 billion of us would get peacefully along with each other.
We are in a survival situation, at least most of us are; but that’s besides the point. No, it’s not naive to think that humans would follow human nature if those preventing it for their own profit were removed. It’s the logical conclusion of studying the material reality of people’s lives. Identify the sociopaths, eliminate them, and congrats, no one has any incentive to not follow human nature.
Oh wow, here I thought we were having an actual discussion, but you actually went for the kulak solution. You really should rethink your position if it involves wanton killing based on impossible to verify criteria.
To survive, yeah maybe. To thrive? Hah, no.
Tribes have always thrived over individuals, and will always. Humans are pretty shit animals; but as a coequal group working towards the same goal? We’re amazing. When we favor individuals, or stratify our groups, we die.
You are once again missing the point: on a person to person basis, in a survival situation, yes, humans are hyper selfless and cooperative. We are not in such a situation. It’s naïve to think that, given a clean start, all 8 billion of us would get peacefully along with each other.
We are in a survival situation, at least most of us are; but that’s besides the point. No, it’s not naive to think that humans would follow human nature if those preventing it for their own profit were removed. It’s the logical conclusion of studying the material reality of people’s lives. Identify the sociopaths, eliminate them, and congrats, no one has any incentive to not follow human nature.
Oh wow, here I thought we were having an actual discussion, but you actually went for the kulak solution. You really should rethink your position if it involves wanton killing based on impossible to verify criteria.