And I’m being serious. I feel like there might be an argument there, I just don’t understand it. Can someone please “steelman” that argument for me?

  • Twentytwodividedby7@lemmy.world
    144·
    11 days ago

    You’re wrong that it didn’t impact the outcome. MI flipped to Trump directly because of the uncommitted movement. Slotkin won the senate race, but Trump won by a narrow margin. Independent votes and low turn out siphoned off enough to make that happen. Low turn out also directly impacted the results. PA is a different story, but low turn out was true there, too

    • NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io
      213·
      11 days ago

      You’re wrong that it didn’t impact the outcome. MI flipped to Trump directly because of the uncommitted movement.

      I mean maybe (I haven’t seen the turnout numbers as opposed to protest/non-voters) but the point is that Harris lost before Michigan even finished counting. She could’ve won Michigan and she still wasn’t winning this, is the point.

      Low turn out also directly impacted the results. PA is a different story, but low turn out was true there, too

      I mean yeah, because the DNC pushed an unelectable candidate whose position was a mix of “nothing will fundamentally change”, wishy washy non-promises and right wing positions. I doubt even 10% of the 15 million in reduced turnout came from Uncommitted and similar movements. The DNC blew it; it’s that simple.

      • jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
        41·
        11 days ago

        Michigan and Wisconsin, 25 electoral points. You can’t just lose swing states like she did.

        Pennsylvania absolutely over biden economic policies. Screaming the economy is doing great! I wouldnt change a thing! While people struggle to afford groceries isnt going to win you an election.