• latenightnoir@lemmy.world
    341·
    16 days ago

    I can’t even begin to imagine how it must feel to know that so many people on this planet would kill you just for existing…

    • Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zoneOP
      40·
      16 days ago

      Unfortunately I know people who literally talk about how they’re “just waiting for the orders” anytime queer people, homeless people, liberal politics in general come up.

      It’s an incredibly shitty feeling. Going through life knowing that there are people literally down the road just waiting for the chance to brutally murder someone for loving someone.

      And I live in the US in an area commonly referred to as a blue state. Literally on the border of a major metro area.

      • latenightnoir@lemmy.world
        18·
        16 days ago

        Jesus Christ, that sounds… insanely stressful and horrible…I don’t even know what else to say, I’m truly sorry you have to go through that…

        • Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zoneOP
          9·
          16 days ago

          It’s definitely shitty and stressful a lot of the time that’s for sure…

          The air is changing in the area (especially compared to when I was young) in a good way but the ones that have shitty views are getting more blood thirsty in how they talk. The youths are getting more progressive here, hell I was getting ice cream with a boyfriend a few months ago and we overheard some teens openly talking about being queer. When we were that young we wouldn’t have dared to do that fearing for our lives.

          If shit does hit the fan (like we do fear) at least my friends and found family have plans for how to make it out the other side alive. And hopefully inspire others to continue the fight no matter the odds.

          • latenightnoir@lemmy.world
            5·
            16 days ago

            Yeah, think it’s the “cornered animals” phase of this societal transition, cement-brains are losing their shit left and right. Hopefully, empathy and reason will eventually triumph over this utter bullshit…

            If not, as you’ve said, when shit hits the fan, we’ll slap it right back at them. I mean, enough is enough, someone has to knock some sense back into’em…

            In the meantime, I’m happy to hear you’re not alone out there, and I wish you and the ones close to you nothing but peace and love! Stay safe and stay strong! Us sinners gotta stick together!

      • Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
        6·
        15 days ago

        I understand… I was sitting in an office next to someone who was watching Jan 6 live as it happened, and they were cheering occasionally.

        I work in government IT. It’s terrifying that these kinds of people are everywhere.

    • A_Very_Big_Fan@lemmy.worldMEnglish
      12·
      16 days ago

      I’ve had people openly admit they think it’s just and good that I’ll go to hell for being queer. And the majority of my family follows the same doctrine, so… I don’t think I even know how I feel about it tbh.

      • detectivesniffles@lemmy.blahaj.zone
        4·
        16 days ago

        the amount of bigoted dipshits confident that they’re going through the pearly gates has me half convinced they’re right and half convinced that i’m not missing out on a whole lot

      • latenightnoir@lemmy.world
        3·
        16 days ago

        Oh, god, had my fair share of familial religious zealotry and it was bad enough when they didn’t see me as entirely anathema to everything they’d been brainwashed into believing…

        I’m so very sorry you can’t find shelter with the people who were supposed to protect and love you with everything in their power, the feeling of alienation from one’s own family is loneliness like no other… I hope with all my heart that you’ve managed or will manage to find people who love you exactly as you are, people who bring you peace.

  • Alice@beehaw.org
    25·
    16 days ago

    Our queer siblings being horrifically abused doesn’t make us cool or quirky, it’s a tragedy.

      • Alice@beehaw.org
        6·
        16 days ago

        I guess so. I do that with my own pain, I’d think people would be upset if I did it with theirs.

  • Chloé 🥕@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
    519·
    15 days ago

    edit: sorry for my answers, i was being an ass

    i still stand by the fact that making “lol haha i’m illegal in X countries lmao” jokes is insensitive and shitty, but my language was unnecessarily edgy and abrasive.

    there is much to criticize about white queerness, but that’s not what i did

    screenshots (with alt text) of the thread below before i deleted my comments so what i said doesn't just go forgotten

    Screenshot of a comment thread: carotte: nah, white gays who brag about being a criminal in 72 countries while not facing much of that persecution themselves can fuck off; Techranger@infosec.pub: If there are out gays who don't face much or any persecution, I would call that a victory for the cause worth celebrating! Remember Alan Turing. Remember Harvey Milk. Both of them were white gays who paid dearly for having the audacity to be themselves. Racism is unbecoming. It's divisive. I think it's important to show solidarity to all humans struggling to be themselves under oppressive systems.; carotte: absolutely, but what im criticizing here are the (often young) white queers who didn't grow up under that oppressive system appropriating the pain of others to feel edgy and cool. that's the problem, that's what this meme is doing; Gormadt (who is the OP): When I was young, and discovering myself, my existence was illegal in my area and queer people in my area were still heavily persecuted. I won't go into details about the terrible things I've seen and experienced as I'm sure nobody here wants to hear it. Laughing not to cry and all that you know? Edit: I'm also not a fan of how you brought (and doubled down) on trying to make it a race thing.; carotte: im "making it a race thing" because it's just factual that white queers face way less oppression than queer BIPOC. and it's mostly white queers making these edgy jokes. im sorry for having assumed you were one of them, though. that was shitty and I apologize Screenshot of a comment thread: carotte: nah, white gays who brag about being a criminal in 72 countries while not facing much of that persecution themselves can fuck off; Ifera@lemmy.world: Because no white queers are being raped, abused and murdered in conversion camps. Honestly, people like you who keep trying to segregate people with a mix of Oppression Olympics, "Reverse, punching up Racism" (Spoiler alert, that is just racism), and gatekeeping just to paint yourselves as poor, pearl-clutching victims. I hope some day you grow up and develop some kindness, people like you give us queers a bad rep. If you want to help people, do positive things and help, instead of just whining with a "You can't sit with us, you're the wrong color" sign.; carotte: im not saying there are no white queers who face oppression, don't twist my words. and im not trying to paint myself as a victim. im a white and I know my place; Ifera@lemmy.world: How fancy, white savior complex, telling me what I should be offended about, and trying to normalize silencing voices with the age old line of "knowing their place".; carotte: when I talk about "knowing your place" i say this about myself and other whites, if you're not white this doesn't apply to you and you have every right to speak up. anyways, im gonna practice what i peach and shut up now. sorry for wasting your time

    • Techranger@infosec.pub
      12·
      16 days ago

      If there are out gays who don’t face much or any persecution, I would call that a victory for the cause worth celebrating! Remember Alan Turing. Remember Harvey Milk. Both of them were white gays who paid dearly for having the audacity to be themselves. Racism is unbecoming. It’s divisive. I think it’s important to show solidarity to all humans struggling to be themselves under oppressive systems.

        • Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zoneOP
          8·
          16 days ago

          When I was young and discovering myself, my existence was illegal in my area and queer people in my area were still heavily persecuted.

          I won’t go into details about the terrible things I’ve seen and experienced as I’m sure nobody here wants to hear it.

          Laughing not to cry and all that you know?

          Edit: I’m also not a fan of how you brought (and doubled down) on trying to make it a race thing.

    • Ifera@lemmy.world
      5·
      16 days ago

      Because no white queers are being raped, abused and murdered in conversion camps. Honestly, people like you who keep trying to segregate people with a mix of Oppression Olympics, “Reverse, punching up Racism”(Spoiler alert, that is just racism), and gatekeeping just to paint yourselves as poor, pearl-clutching victims.

      I hope some day you grow up and develop some kindness, people like you give us queers a bad rep. If you want to help people, do positive things and help, instead of just whining with a “You can’t sit with us, you’re the wrong color” sign.