It’s official: Donald Trump’s plan for massive deportations would apply to legal immigrants, as well as undocumented immigrants.
During an exclusive interview with NewsNation, Trump said he planned to strip the legal status of the Haitian immigrants in Springfield, Ohio, who have been granted Temporary Protected Status.
“Springfield is such a beautiful place; have you seen what’s happened to it? It’s been overrun. They have to be removed,” Trump said.
“So you would revoke the Temporary Protected Status?” asked the interviewer.
“Absolutely, I’d revoke it and I’d bring them back to their country,” Trump said.
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I’m a Republican Immigrant and I KNOW he’s NOT Talking about Me! He’s talking about those OTHER Immigrants!
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First they came for the immigrants
And I did not speak out
Because I’m one of the good ones
“Immigants! I knew it was them! Even when it was the bears, I knew it was them.”
- Moe
If you’re a white immigrant, you’re probably right.
… for now.
Isn’t that like every wealthy Cuban in Florida?
Let’s hope Elon goes first.
So… basically…. he spoke? I mean, that’s all he does when he opens his mouth- threats, lies and unintended promises.
Why is anyone left shocked by this?
Trump and the interviewer are talking about Temporary Protected Status, which is temporary.
A TPS designation can be made for 6, 12, or 18 months at a time. At least 60 days prior to the expiration of TPS, the Secretary [of Homeland Security] must decide whether to extend or terminate a designation based on the conditions in the foreign country.
TPS eligibility for people from Haiti will last until February 3, 2026 unless it is extended. If during a Trump presidency, the federal government does not extend TPS for Haiti, it would be acting well within its established authority.
You can’t have it both ways. Trump supporters say “he tells it like it is” and then turn around and say “well he didn’t actually mean what he said, he actually meant this other thing”. Which is it?
Hmm, isn’t he suggesting that he would revoke their status? That is very different from ‘deciding not to extend it’.
The interviewer was the one who used the word “revoke” but Trump does seem like the kind of person who could attempt to end the TPS designation early rather than waiting for it to simply expire a year into his term. Such an attempt would have very little chance of success. Decisions to terminate (as opposed to revoke early) TPS status during Trump’s past presidency are still going through the courts (see Ramos, et al. v. Nielsen, et al.) and not in effect.
The interviewer asked if he would revoke it and he said yes he would revoke it. Words have meaning. He was asked a question, and he answered it very clearly and honestly more lucidly than his average response. He repeated the word revoke.
If he meant “let expire” he would have said “No, I wouldn’t revoke it but I would allow that to expire.” I don’t know what here is ambiguous. I get it, people hate Trump enough that sometimes they fill in the blanks with the worst possible thing. It’s hard to blame them because he usually says the worst possible things, but regardless that isn’t what is happening here.
That isn’t what Trump means and you know it.
Revoking and not extending are two different things.
Man, I can’t believe 10 years of Trump and people are still doing this “sure, he said that, but he’s actually a brilliant legal and political tactician and what he means is…”
The man is a moron, surrounded by the most hateful motherfuckers on the planet. He says what he Fucking means.
When he says terrible shit he is saying what he means.
He also frequently says non-terrible shit, but then contradicts himself shortly after so we know that whe he says something that isn’t terrible then he is lying.
Then why didn’t he say
Absolutely, I’d NOT EXTEND it and I’d bring them back to their country,” Trump said.
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Defo 2 very different things
The federal government uses the term “terminate” rather than “revoke” to describe the decision not to extend TPS, but even the article the OP posted (which is very critical of Trump’s plan) interprets what he said as “not extend”.
Now Trump plans to forcibly uproot this group of roughly 18,000 people who pay taxes, own homes, have jobs, and support their families. But that’s only the beginning: Up to 2.7 million people could lose protection from deportation if Trump allows immigration programs such as Temporary Protected Status, DACA, and humanitarian parole to lapse during a second term, according to Forbes.
But he’s not saying he’d not extend the TPS. He’s saying he’d revoke it (for Haitians (in Ohio)).
I imagine if someone tries to get him to say exactly what he meant by this, he’d just do his standard backpedal and hide in obscurity or accuse the reporter of being rude.
His inability to speak clearly and his frequent desire to be pointlessly cruel are both reasons I won’t vote for him, but I do think it’s important to note that he’s not proposing to deport permanent residents.
We will root out the communists, Marxists, fascists and the radical left thugs that live like vermin within the confines of our country
Don’t worry, no deportation. Just the camps and the ovens for you.
So he’s gonna send his wife back? Sounds about right since she said she supports abortion.
Can we send Elon back to South Africa? There’s some sketchy stuff he did with his student visa.
Her anchor baby, Barron, needs to go too.
It depends on if he saved the receipt.
The headline makes this sound more encompassing than what he says. Revoking temporary legal status is different than revoking from people with green cards or naturalized citizens. I don’t agree with what he’s saying he will do, but it’s worth clarifying which group of people this actually effects.
It’s all stepping stones for them. That’s why they say everything they don’t like is a slippery slope, because that’s how they work.
Like it just happened. First it was illegal, now it’s the legal temporary. Next it will be legal _____, etc, etc.
Fascism always needs a new enemy each time it has dealt with the last one. That’s why no one is safe from these neo-Nazis.
Is it worth? He didn’t care for what status or protection this specific group had. It’s not like he’s making an argument for that type of asylum. If it’s mexican greencard holders he thinks are eating the dogs, they’ll be next.
The headline is accurate, he wants to deport people who are in the US lawfully.
Because we all know he will stop there.
This isn’t the actual point, it’s about canceling citizenship for 2nd generation kids, because they might not vote for the same rednecks they believe should be running the country.
Ironically, if they were even marginally human and unracist, those conservative catholic Mexicans would vote GOP in droves, it’s just the brutal, inhuman explicit racism that pushed them blue.
Only when they divorce.
So are native americans finally getting their land back? And will you all clean before you leave? :D
No way! He’ll send them back too!
/s
You say that as if the United States deporting indigenous US citizens to Mexico isn’t a thing that’s actually happened before.
(Wikipedia calls it the “Mexican Repatriation”, but the only differences between a mixed-race “Native American” from the Southwest and a mestizo “Mexican-American” from the area of the Mexican Cession are speaking English vs. Spanish and how they choose to self-identity.)
I remember my entire life up before this Haitian thing, Republicans would always say “we like legal immigrants, we want fewer illegal immigrants.” Even though they would actively try to reduce the number of new legal immigrants too. Now they’re full on supporting deporting the legal immigrants too.
You’d think that would be alarming for anyone whose parents weren’t born here, but it barely seems to register.
How many of trump’s supporters can say their ancestry dates to before the establishment of the United States? The irony is lost on these people.
They are who “First they came” was written about…
None of this is new, ICE was targeting US citizens under trump last time too
https://theconversation.com/how-ice-enforcement-has-changed-under-the-trump-administration-120322
it was always a lie about ‘legal immigrants’. theyve spent 70 years making it practically impossible to become a legal immigrant. because racism.
More than 70. Basically right back to the post civil war era. Around 1880 we started really trying to close the doors to people we considered understandable. Then in 1924 they introduced the quota system to really limit immigration.
As if your parents birthrights will matter in the end. I mean if it goes all Nazi.
You know, this guy somehow sounds more and more like an actual Nazi every day. I’m starting to think he might have actual racist views and desires that will really fuck things up.
(/s since I always forget it’s not obvious, clearly a Nazi offspring has Nazi views)
It’s because he essentially is one. They’re rewriting the code, but it’s till the same game.
MAGA = NAZI.
Keep in mind “immigrant” is simply a dog whistle to these freaks. It means “brown or black people”, regardless of legal status. They don’t care that that’s not accurate, it enables them to hate and hurt people they don’t care about enough to try to understand…
Bye, Melania!
Deport his wife and Elon.
We’rE Not RaciSt, We JUst HatE IllEgal ImmIgranTS, We’Re NoT AgAinSt ImmIgRants wHo CaME heRe ThE RigHt wAY…
Nobody who’s been to Springfield would call it a beautiful place. It’s a small city in Ohio. I’ve I’ve been there several times, and I’d mostly gone several years without thinking about it. It’s fine. The Haitians didn’t ruin it they gave it character it sorely lacked
As someone who’s regularly been to Springfield, oh over the last decade. It’s not a beautiful place, it hasnt been for a long time. Most of downtown had been hollowed out and turned into parking lots, other buildings are deep in disrepair, which is contributing reason why it’s not recovered as quickly as neighboring cities like Dayton, Urbana, and Xenia.
It’s a hard hit rust belt city, long dealing with addiction and other deaths of despair.
What I’d heard is that importing a bunch of Haitians was helping to fix the place.
I think that’s an unhelpful narrative. I think a better narrative is people who needed help and got it, improved their community.
The residents of Springfield have needed help for a long time and haven’t gotten nearly enough and that’s why things hadn’t gotten better until now. The immigrants who have arrived and improved things are people who got the help they needed.
Melania looks relieved.
