The Cooper Davis Act would force tech companies to report suspected drug activity to the government. Experts say it would be a disaster for digital privacy.

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    Alcohol, cigars and then… cocaine, LSD, crack? Are you honestly making this comparison?

    Could you look someone in the eye and tell that cocaine and tobacco are the same thing?

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      The fact that you put LSD between cocaine and crack made me literally lol.

      You’ve clearly lived a very sheltered life and have been fed all of your information on drugs from entertainment media.

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        Maye LSD is “less bad” than the others, fine. I’m not a drug connoisseur.

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          That was obvious when you posted cocaine then crack.

          It showed that not only are you not a connoisseur, but your understanding of drugs is most likely mainstream fiction and copaganda regurgitated as news.

          Crack is just cocaine that has been processed so you can smoke it instead of snorting or injecting it.

          Disclaimer: don’t Fuck around with cocaine, it dumps your dopamine and eventually makes it impossible to feel happiness outside of continued use, and the use diminishes in its dopamine dumps

          Edit: I didn’t even read the comment two up, they had the same assessment, lol

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            Disclaimer: don’t Fuck around with cocaine, it dumps your dopamine and eventually makes it impossible to feel happiness outside of continued use, and the use diminishes in its dopamine dumps

            Thank you for agreeing with my anti-drug agenda. You are correct in this sentence, we must ban cocaine immediately and persecute anyone involved in its production and distribution.

            I wish you a long life, dear friend, even though I know you’ll die young.

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      • alcohol deaths per year: 140,000
      • tobacco deaths per year: 480,000
      • cocaine deaths per year: 15,000 (including crack)
      • opioid deaths per year: 68,000
      • LSD deaths per year: 0
      • cannabis deaths per year: 0

      Our drug war is a fucking farce. It is, and always has been, a fascist culture war.

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        Now we’re talking, I like to see numbers and data. You’re clearly different from the others here.

        Now go a biiit further and check usage statistics for alcohol, cocaine and opioids. Is it the same number of people using all three?

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            Now, now, I wonder how many dozens of millions of people are using cocaine each year.

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              Cocaine is not particularly dangerous. Oddly enough opioids are safe if, and only if, the user knows the specific opioid being used and it’s actual purity and doesn’t use improper techniques to use it. It doesn’t usually kill or cause major medical issues if the dosage and purity are known and clean needles are used. Alcohol is a medical issue at basically any dosage. There is no safe way to consume it. Tobacco is in the same category: all use is harmful, smoking is excessively harmful.

              The point is we tolerate obviously harmful drugs, some of us refuse to admit they are drugs, or put them in some category where they should not be considered when discussing drug abuse. Why do people do this? As I said, it seems very much to be a cultural issue. Alcohol and tobacco, by far our most lethal drug abuse problems, are accepted as part of ‘our’ culture. By ‘our’ I mean the dominant European Christian culture- white people. The ‘bad’ drugs are all associated with ‘outsiders’, people not part of the dominant culture. Quite obviously also this cultural categorization is racist bullshit. White people are just as likely to be using the ‘bad’ drugs as non white people. So it’s an ideological campaign to justify what has become a corrupt government/capitalist ‘complex’. The failed drug war pumps billions of dollars into the private sector. There is no motivation to stop what is a quite successful system as far as the recipients of all that loot are concerned.

              But certainly just simply adopting a harm reduction approach instead of continuing the idiocy of criminalization cannot be taken seriously. After all we cannot compare cigars to LSD.

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      I am not saying crack or other drugs are harmless, but man, have you ever seen an alcohol addict? It completely destroys your body, mind and family (which you like to mention when it comes to other drugs). You can absolutely compare it to crack.

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        I see, so you’re arguing we must ban both alcohol and drugs? You bring a hard bargain, I’m interested in the connotations of this.

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          This has already been tried and didn‘t work. People consumed it anyway (surprise).

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              Can you tell me how it affects or even hurts anyone if someone is smoking weed at home? There is literally no point in making it illegal. What you can do is making it illegal to do certain things while under the influence of drugs, for example driving a car. And guess what, exactly this happens with alcohol too. But making the drug itself illegal is imo a bad idea.

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                We’re progressing, we’re already talking about limitations and regulations and control in general!

                This has been productive for both of us, keep up walking the good path, friend.

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                  The drug market currently is completely unregulated. It‘s easier for a teenager to buy weed, than alcohol. If we make it legal, we can actually regulate it, like alcohol.

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                    This exact mentality, applied to guns, led to the school shooting situation in the US.

                    Also

                    According to the World Health Organization (WHO), globally, it is estimated that about 1 in 3 women (or approximately 33%) have experienced physical and/or sexual violence at some point in their lives

                    Shall we legalize groping? Legalize it (it’s unavoidable) and then regulate it (applies rules to how long you can touch, where you can touch, etc)

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              Because people in power need excuses to hit people they don’t like without having to pay weregild for it. That’s it, that’s the entire purpose of laws. The whole “protecting society” theory is a convenient smokescreen that we’ve all bought into through generations upon generations of Stockholm syndrome and the fact that we all also want to hit people and be justified in doing so from time to time.