Trump’s Heartless Reaction to Pence Being in Danger Revealed in Bombshell Filing
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Donald Trump didn’t appear worried about what an angry mob of protesters would do to his vice president.

A bombshell filing out of Donald Trump’s election subversion case was unsealed Wednesday, revealing a trove of damning allegations about how the former president acted on and around Jan. 6, 2021.

Among the nastiest accusations in the 165-page document was how Trump allegedly reacted to learning from an aide that his vice president, Mike Pence, had been taken to a secure location in the U.S. Capitol for his safety.

Trump’s alleged response to that news: “So what?”

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    • Fades@lemmy.worldEnglish
      641·
      2 months ago

      It’s not. It further proves things like his acknoledement of guilt, how he fired those who spoke truth about no proof of cheating, how Ken Chesebro himself called his alternate lists of electors fake and how it was just a ploy to give DonOld the opportunity to say they won and are working with the courts.

      There are a lot of interesting and impactful details throughout the filing and another 200+pg brief is set to drop in the next few weeks from Chutkan with more of this stuff including testimonies

      • takeda@lemmy.world
        201·
        2 months ago

        This is why is so dangerous calling him dumb. It brings that benefit of the doubt, that “he didn’t know that this is not allowed”, that “he is just dumb and did not know better”, “he can’t control himself” etc etc.

        He then exploits every single opportunity given and avoids any punishment (he still did not get any!)

        • Bytemeister@lemmy.worldEnglish
          6·
          2 months ago

          He is dumb. The problem is smart conmen and fascists want to fleece his flock, and the easiest way to access his sheep is to cut the shepherd in on the profit.

        • bamboo@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
          61·
          2 months ago

          Nowhere in the rules does it say dogs can’t play basketball the president can’t talk their cult into marching onto the capitol with the intention of hanging their own VP.

        • LillyPip@lemmy.ca
          4·
          2 months ago

          He is dumb. Hitler was an idiot, too.

          Being a moron makes autocrats more dangerous, not less, because they’re more easily swayed by evil opportunists, and are more likely to make deadly, impulsive decisions without thinking them through.

    • Soup@lemmy.cafeEnglish
      111·
      2 months ago

      He’s said and done far worse directly in front of a camera. Behind closed doors? I wouldn’t be surprised if he was shooting tied-down kittens in front of school children.

        • shastaxc@lemm.ee
          1·
          2 months ago

          And then eating the kittens. Makes sense if you assume all the accusations against Ohio Haitians are due to projection.

  • carl_dungeon@lemmy.worldEnglish
    91·
    2 months ago

    Name one person trump actually gives a fuck about other than himself. This isn’t a bombshell, it’s a giant fucking DUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH moment.

    • Fades@lemmy.worldEnglish
      222·
      2 months ago

      Trump’s heartless reaction to Pence being in danger revealed in bombshell filing

      This isn’t a bombshell

      yes it is bud, just because you don’t have the patience to read the filing doesn’t mean the rest of us don’t either. There are important new details that the public has not heard about that absolutely matters in regards to his state of mind and intention based on what he was made aware of. This headline is talking about a small example of the contents.

      No, this isn’t gonna change MAGA’s mind but it is still very important for the upcoming case that will not happen until after the election (which is yet another reason as to why it DOES matter.) Americans have the right to know about this stuff before the election and Chutkan has made that happen.

      • imPastaSyndrome@lemm.ee
        6·
        2 months ago

        Right, but this specifically the pence thing isn’t the bombshell so it’s a weird thing to pick out here

        • mosiacmango@lemm.ee
          7·
          2 months ago

          Comment up thread from the same user:

          It’s not. It further proves things like his acknoledement of guilt, how he fired those who spoke truth about no proof of cheating, how Ken Chesebro himself called his alternate lists of electors fake and how it was just a ploy to give DonOld the opportunity to say they won and are working with the courts.

          There are a lot of interesting and impactful details throughout the filing and another 200+pg brief is set to drop in the next few weeks from Chutkan with more of this stuff including testimonies

  • GraniteM@lemmy.world
    581·
    2 months ago

    Imagine being JD Vance, looking at all of the people smarter and more experienced than him with their shattered careers after working for Trump, and thinking “But I’m the one who will figure out how to ride this tiger to my own advantage!”

    Rudy Giuliani went from being “America’s mayor” to being an absolute fucking laughingstock, a man so generally reviled that he couldn’t sustain an appearance on The Masked Singer.

    Anyone, literally anyone at any level, at this point who thinks that Trump won’t throw them under the bus at his earliest convenience is just actively seeking their own destruction.

    • Bytemeister@lemmy.worldEnglish
      281·
      2 months ago

      It’s probably the best chance Vance has at the presidency. Roughly 50/50 that Trump wins, and I’d say there is about an 80% chance that Trump dies in office or gets 25th’d after a stroke. Those are pretty tempting odds to get in the presidency. Vance doesn’t have enough pull with hate groups to get the Republicans nomination.

      • imPastaSyndrome@lemm.ee
        8·
        2 months ago

        Roughly 50/50 that Trump wins,

        Don’t you put that evil on us Ricky Bobby

        I’d say there is about an 80% chance that Trump dies in office

        Honestly I’d say it’s that likely he dies on golf course

      • Ultraviolet@lemmy.worldEnglish
        7·
        2 months ago

        My guess is that’s the plan all along. When Trump said he’ll be a dictator “but only on day one”, he meant Vance would be a dictator going forward.

        • cmbabul@lemmy.world
          3·
          2 months ago

          Man I didn’t even think about that and I’m now I’m even more upset, anxious, and worried

      • ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.worldEnglish
        6·
        2 months ago

        Vance is like the bizarro LBJ. Johnson’s sole goal in life was to become President but he had absolutely no shot at it because he only had pull with hate groups (the racist South). Without question, he only got into the Oval Office because of a bullet to Kennedy’s head. Kind of amazing that in 2024 locking up the hate group vote is enough to get not only the Republican nomination but also the Presidency.

        • Bytemeister@lemmy.worldEnglish
          9·
          2 months ago

          To them, hate has been rebranded (or not depending on which political historian you talk to) as American tradition.

          I don’t hate gays, but it goes against American tradition.

          I don’t hate black people, but CRT poisons kids against American tradition.

          I don’t hate immigrants, but they bring their own culture instead of accepting American tradition.

          Those are all sentiments I’ve heard from the (not quite as insane) right. It’s horseblinders that let them march to the conservative drum, without seeing the neonazis and klansmen next to them.

    • kreekybonez@lemmy.world
      4·
      2 months ago

      what?! the guy who bankrupted a casino for short-term real estate gains? not a trustworthy partner? how could it be?

    • Furbag@lemmy.world
      2·
      2 months ago

      All the people in Trump’s circle at this point are doing an all-or-nothing gambit hoping that they can seize power if Trump dies or is sent to prison.

      Either their career ends in humiliation and shame or they get elevated to the highest office in the land without having to spend the money for it. Some might see that as a good gamble.

  • UnpopularCrow@lemmy.world
    481·
    2 months ago

    In order for any of this document to contain “damning allegations” would require anyone who is already voting for Trump to have morals, critical thinking skills, and/or common sense. I would argue the influence this entire document has on voting intentions is in the single digits … and not percentage points.

    That said, I’m still glad they released it.

    • shalafi@lemmy.worldEnglish
      18·
      2 months ago

      In this case, “damning allegations” refers to legal damnations, not popular opinion.

      • UnpopularCrow@lemmy.world
        81·
        2 months ago

        I would love to believe that, but laws don’t apply to the wealthy and powerful in the USA. Trump has committed countless crimes and he is still running for president with a coin toss chance of winning despite sedition and treason. I’ll eat my words if he is ever convicted of anything that actually puts him in jail. But I highly doubt this document changes anything.

    • Dagwood222@lemm.ee
      12·
      2 months ago

      I’ve written about this story so many times since 2015.

      Conservative woman went on The View TV show to defend Donnie after the ‘pussy grabber’ tape came out.

      Another panelist kept saying ‘pussy’ over and over.

      Finally the MAGoo woman had to ask her to stop using that offensive term.

      They know what he is, and they don’t care.

  • Cephalotrocity@biglemmowski.winEnglish
    213·
    2 months ago

    Getting real tired of these titles using the ‘bombshell’ descriptor. Anybody here really shell-shocked by these allegations? No? Is it simply yet another bunch of criminal acts to throw on the litany of accusations he is absurdly unlikely to pay for or even budge the needle on his approval rating in the law-and-order party?

    Only bombshell for me would be a real image of him in prison orange behind bars.

  • Kingofthezyx@lemm.ee
    13·
    2 months ago

    Trump’s Heartless Reaction to Pence Being in Danger Revealed in Bombshell Filing

    Much more concise

  • Rentlar@lemmy.ca
    71·
    2 months ago

    There were many years in the Trump Presidency I was looking for smoking guns… there are more smoking guns presented in this filing than all Clint Eastwood movies combined.