• kescusay@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    Ah, so just divide the Democrats up to destroy their power. Typical.

    I know I’m not going to convince you, so this is for everyone else reading this thread. Because of our shitty electoral college and FPTP system, calls for third parties on the left translate into more political power for the right. Here’s how it works…

    Let’s say you have two main political parties, the Snuggling Puppies party and the Kicking Puppies party. The Snugglers usually win, because the Kickers are violent weirdos.

    Then the Kickers get the bright idea of helping out fringe parties that also love puppies, like one called the Worshipping Puppies party, which takes their love of puppies to the extreme. They secretly fund and promote these other parties, and it’s very effective. In the next election, it’s so effective that the Kickers win.

    Wait, what? How? It’s simple. With the people who love puppies dividing their votes between multiple candidates who love puppies, the Kickers get a plurality.

    Let’s keep it simple and say the Kickers clandestinely supported three parties that are ideologically opposed to them, meaning people who love puppies divided their votes up four ways. Each of the puppy-loving parties gets 19.5% of the vote, for a pro-puppy total of 78%! But the Kickers didn’t divide up their vote, so with a 22% plurality, the winner is… The party that everyone else hates!

    It’s a classic divide and conquer strategy. It only works when astroturfers manage to convince people on the left puppy lovers to divide themselves up, rather than consolidate to fight back against the right people who hate puppies.

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      2 months ago

      Cute story.

      My goal is to destroy and replace the Democratic Party. If there can only be two parties then let’s build a revolutionary party and replace the useless liberal party.

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        2 months ago

        Cute story.

        True story. If you dispute it, you dispute math. It’s literally how FPTP voting works.

        Your goal is a permanent Republican majority. Might as well start openly rooting for Trump.

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        2 months ago

        My goal is to destroy and replace the Democratic Party

        With what? I doubt even 15% of the voting public agree with any of your ideas.

        If there can only be two parties then let’s build a revolutionary party and replace the useless liberal party.

        In what world does destroying the further left, liberal party do anything except create a power vacuum for the right to fill?

        This is why nobody takes you seriously, you don’t even have thought out plans, just “burn it all down and magically good people who agree with me will rise up and seize power” You’re delusional and completely disconnected from reality, go read more theory and let the adults handle things.

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        2 months ago

        You could have a goal to destroy and replace the Republican party instead, no? Seems like it’d be an overall better solution to be, shifting all parties further to the left, especially if you consider the Democractic party too far right. I mean, why keep the reactionary party?