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      A lot of these videos have been fact checked as false and out of context
      I mean, even twitter had this thing to debunk false claims
      https://twitter.com/i/events/1496815373936574469
      Not saying that Russians aren’t in Ukraine right now, they could very well be, but I object strongly to people jumping to conclusions about a full scale invasion, when it looks like the real narrative is Russia has done a one off attack for political leverage.
      You are from lemmygrad, so I assume you trust China at least somewhat. This was China’s stance.
      https://www.reuters.com/world/china/china-calls-restraint-ukraine-rejects-term-invasion-2022-02-24/
      I wanted to post it, but lemmy wouldn’t do it for some reason

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        Let’s flip this. If the US was bombing Moscow’s airport and rolling tanks across the border, would you be calling for not being too hasty about calling it an invasion?

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          If I was living in a Russia dominated media and social media environment, and people were making false claims about the scale of USA’s actions for the purpose of warmongering, I absolutely would want people to be cautious

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            Russia has come out and said they did both of these things. It’s not under dispute.

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              I variety of sources such as Ukrainian officials, your cousin on twitter, some random farmer in Kharkov. Many of the more extreme claims are being fact checked now.

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                The standard role call of disinformation, distortion, and denial. Weren’t you denying there were Russian troops on the border, just a few days ago?

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                  I don’t remember denying there were Russian troops on the border. You might be confused

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        Thanks for posting the link. I know that footage from other conflicts from different times are often circulated inappropriately and are used for misinformation. You’re correct in saying that I don’t know for certain whether or not any particular source is genuine.

        I am from Lemmygrad, and had not seen this exact response from China, however I don’t necessarily need to agree with everything the Chinese government says. In 1979 they didn’t like calling their own invasion of Vietnam an invasion, instead opting in favour of the term “the self-defensive counterattack against Vietnam”.

        I found a link to a similar article except it’s from an Indian media outlet and you don’t need to register an account to read the whole thing. Leaving this in case anyone is interested.

        https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/china-calls-for-restraint-in-ukraine-rejects-the-term-invasion-2786419