• jmp242@sopuli.xyz
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    1 year ago

    I guess I just don’t get how you have share with “large” group of people and private and secure? I mean, pastebin anyway had a timeout. And the paaster github even says you have to run your own instance for security and privacy. If I’m running my own server, I presumably don’t need to encrypt my data from myself. If I am running my own server, and the security is explicitly the link, it’s not actually secure because the link grants access. But that’s to be expected, anything more and you get into needing to authenticate everyone, which is the exact opposite of easy or quick.

    And for anything I’m concerned enough about to not share with the internet - I wouldn’t be posting on a game lobby or forum. Or I mean, if I trust the forum privacy, why not just… idk… post the text content to the forum?

    My issue here isn’t that I don’t see the need for a pastbin sort of service, my issue is I think for the vast majority of usecases you’ve listed and I can imagine, you’re getting security theater, not actual security and privacy.

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      1 year ago

      And the paaster github even says you have to run your own instance for security and privacy.

      It says a “instance you host or trust” this is true of any web app (including Proton etc.)

      Even if you self host data leaks can occur.

      The fact you don’t see the need for a encrypted pastebin only speaks to your limited imagination.

      Matter of facts are, people share data not wanting it to be indexable or open to data leaks by the server, data in pastebins can be sensitive & people are using E2EE pastebins.

      Here is a use case what matches all your arbitrary requirements. “User wants to share sensitive data over a insecure channel (like discord), they can send a Paaster link what deletes after view, so if Discord ever tries to view it in the future they cant see the data.”

      E2EE now labeled security theater 🤣

      Maybe your specific use case doesn’t benefit off E2EE, but can’t believe I have to explain this. You aren’t the center of the universe and use cases of E2EE pastebins aren’t limited to your specific use case.

      Even pastebin.com sees the benefit of “private” pastes, but according to your logic this shouldn’t even exist too!

      Anyways this conversation has lost any sense of productivity & obviously your care or understanding of privacy is minimal.

      As a final question (what I don’t want a response to) is, should every paste ever always be accessible by everyone?.. Hopefully your answer is no & you can put 2 & 2 together.

      Have a good day & use any data collecting, raw text, insecure platform you want!