• Puppy@kbin.social
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    To this day, I still have no fucking idea why they insist the 2020 election was rigged but refuse categorically to prove it in court. It’s always social media whining.

    When they say they have HUGE amount of evidences, I just ask why they don’t tell Rudy Giuliani. Surely he would be more than happy to clean his reputation and make Trump King of the USA.

    Why don’t they have this debate at the only place it matters, in court? If you have the evidences and if it’s so obvious and damning, why not prove it?

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      They have had this debate in court nearly 100 times and have never proven anything.

      Meanwhile, out of 160 million votes, there were 2 cases of fraud from Trump voters.

      The descent to fascism is steep and at this point I’m not sure imprisoning Trump will have an effect. Look at what Texas and Ken Paxton did in negating over 2 million mail in ballots that would have won Texas for both Biden and Beto.

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      Why don’t they? Because they know it’s not true. They know that they don’t have evidence that they can present in court, and even they aren’t dumb enough to perjur themselves. Their plan was never to win in a court of law: it was so win in a court of their own supporters’ public opinion.

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      So people like my conservative family can complain and feel like perpetual victims. It must be exhausting.

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    As The New York Times reported, “White House counsel, Pat A. Cipollone, and the White House chief of staff, Mark Meadows, repeatedly and aggressively pushed back on the ideas being proposed, which went beyond the special counsel idea, those briefed on the meeting said. Mr. Cipollone told Mr. Trump there was no constitutional authority for what was being discussed, one of the people briefed on the meeting said. Other advisers from the White House and the Trump campaign delivered the same message throughout the meeting, which stretched on for a long period of time.” As CNN notes, “shouting and insults ensued” and “the night ended with Trump tweeting that a coming gathering in Washington, DC, on January 6, 2021, to protest the election results ‘will be wild.’”

    Also said to be of interest to investigators is December 14, 2020, the day a slate of fake GOP electors signed certificates falsely claiming Trump had won the election; investigators have reportedly focused on “efforts to recruit the illegitimate electors, have them sign certificates falsely asserting Trump had won, and then use them as a pretense to pressure then vice president Mike Pence to delay certification of Biden’s Electoral College win on January 6.”

    Last week a man was arrested in Barack Obama’s DC neighborhood after Trump, prosecutors say, shared what he claimed was the former president’s address.