Meanwhile, Ashkan Kareem, 33, has been jailed for 12 months after participating in a clash in Darlington on 5 August.
Kareem said he was trying to protect a mosque from being attacked by “racists”.
The presiding judge said Kareem was part of a group which gathered in opposition to men “chanting racist and far-right slogans”, but it was “abundantly clear that would result in violence and it did”.
So we are American school systems now? Defend yourself, believe it or not, straight to jail. What if he wasn’t part of a group, and they attack him? Still jail?
I get what the judge is saying, but that is fucking bull shit. If I can’t protect my own beliefs, why do they get to roll down the street screaming hate?
(Disclaimer, I am from America, but I can see how it could read differently)
not knowing more context than what you provided, he was not protecting himself: he was protecting a building. they were looking to make the situation violent, and he provided the catalyst
If I see a hate group coming for my shit, my people, my property, my fucking anything, you are god damned right I’ll do what I have to do to protect it. If it is me against ten, you are fucking right I’m hitting up the homies for backup. If you are actually being genuine, you are part of the problem
So I’ve sat down, cooled off, and really thought about this. You are right. This wasn’t about property though. This was about his people and their beliefs. This was a sacred place of worship
The uk isn’t like Texas where you get gunned down for trespassing or shoplifting, life and peace is valued over property. Please don’t try and export your capitalist obsession for property over people to the rest of the world.
So we are American school systems now? Defend yourself, believe it or not, straight to jail. What if he wasn’t part of a group, and they attack him? Still jail?
I get what the judge is saying, but that is fucking bull shit. If I can’t protect my own beliefs, why do they get to roll down the street screaming hate?
(Disclaimer, I am from America, but I can see how it could read differently)
not knowing more context than what you provided, he was not protecting himself: he was protecting a building. they were looking to make the situation violent, and he provided the catalyst
If I see a hate group coming for my shit, my people, my property, my fucking anything, you are god damned right I’ll do what I have to do to protect it. If it is me against ten, you are fucking right I’m hitting up the homies for backup. If you are actually being genuine, you are part of the problem
property is not worth violence
So I’ve sat down, cooled off, and really thought about this. You are right. This wasn’t about property though. This was about his people and their beliefs. This was a sacred place of worship
The uk isn’t like Texas where you get gunned down for trespassing or shoplifting, life and peace is valued over property. Please don’t try and export your capitalist obsession for property over people to the rest of the world.
You conveniently ignored that in your life and peace values