• peto (he/him)@lemm.ee
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      It’s more the idea that everyone counts as people. The further right you go the smaller the group you assign full person status becomes. Liberals are OK with a bit of genocide and/or slavery as long as the victims are sufficiently poor, distant, and profitable.

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      Not wanting people to die is a normal and sane idea.

      People are still who they are but the world we live in has for the last half century significantly shifted to state authotorian and fascist idealogy has flourished in our ego centric rewarding capitalist economy

      Political Left in the US aligns with center in Europe. Only adding to the evidence that political labels are arbitrary and subjective.

      Fascist attack normalcy and misinformation adds to confusion. You have to believe its us and them, you have to pick a side.

      Decent people stay true to what they are, causing the people who are fooled to listen to fascists to now label you a vilified left. You then have the option to confirm to your centrists peers or to stay true to your original ideals.

      Currently i am aligned with far left anarchism But i can perceive plenty of context and societal structures where my identical ideas could be perceived as conservative.

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        America’s political compass is weird. On one side you have a party that mostly just wants to keep the status quo, only really doing changes where it is already desperately behind the times. And on the other side you have the conservatives.

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        I had a weird experience with this “have to pick a side” issue just a couple days ago on a different lemmy. According to the moderators there, not being willing to use violence against protestors was the same as defending them

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          Pacifism being perceived as hostile by both sides of modern politics is a great summary for the state of things.

          Also a huge red flag for what may still come, we may not all realize it but very important parts of our collective history are being decided on today.

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          Yup. Not wanting to get into an argument about what defines a “real women” gets you banned from posting.

          Lemmy does not imply free speech.

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        Political Left in the US aligns with center in Europe. Only adding to the evidence that political labels are arbitrary and subjective.

        Dutch right wing conservative parties are further left than the US left. Not all of them, obviously/unfortunately, but they’re there.

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      Basically.

      For example, tens of thousands of people die every year in the US because of inadequate access to health care. Universal payer would be cheaper and result in fewer preventable deaths. Centrists do not support the policy and thus are willing to let people die in order to support the parasitic insurance industry.

      The genocide in Gaza, homelessness, prison industrial complex, climate change, etc. all get people killed in preventable ways. But we have to protect the owner class so we’re not going to do any of the clear solutions. Letting people die needlessly is an acceptable result.

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      Yeah. They own that now apparently. I think it happened around the same time they collectively agreed that both sides are the same.

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          I hope this is a genuine question because they are referring to the Political Spectrum.

          A “spectrum” can exist on a line, a 2D graph, or even a 3D graph. I’m unsure of the 4th & 5th dimensions, though.