• Schmedes@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Again, that’s not any better.

    If someone tells you they’re going to slap you and another one doesn’t, you’re still getting slapped. And in this case, you didn’t get slapped by either but you might down the road.

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      1 year ago

      Like I said, at least some of what Lilith wants aligns with humanity’s interests. Enemy of my enemy is my friend type deal. I am not saying Lilith is a saint, I am just saying you can at least bargain with her. We’re all just trying to pick the lesser of two evils.

      Besides, siding with Mephisto just means doing the same shit we’ve been doing for the past 3 games and we all know how that worked out. Even if we’re getting slapped eventually, at least we aren’t doing the same thing that we already know hasn’t worked for us before.

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          1 year ago

          Yes, I did watch the lore videos. None of them change my view on the matter actually. Angels and demons have been killing each other since the dawn of creation so I don’t see Lilith’s actions as any different or any more ruthless. Also, she did that in defense of the Nephalem, which humanity descended from, so I feel like I have more in common with her goals than Mephisto’s.

          Existence under Lilith would be one of totalitarian dictatorship of the worst kind – not really worth living, if you ask me.

          So would existence under any of the Prime Evils.

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              Don’t get me wrong, I think she’s terrible in the grand scheme of things. I just think that humanity being descendants of the Nephalem have more interests that align with Lilith compared to Mephisto and that might ultimately lead to a change in the never ending eternal conflict. For example, I think she would have wanted to protect Sanctuary itself, whereas both the heavens and the hells wouldn’t give two shits about destroying it if it served their purposes. I also disagree about the part where she didn’t care about humanity, because humanity is just essentially the children of her spawn. Plus, wasn’t Uldyssian a human who later regained his Nephalem powers? So its there, just hidden by the Worldstone tweaks that Inarius did.

              and we see that cruelty and malice with how she dealt with Inarius

              spoiler

              If my “husband” murdered my son and then impaled me through a wall with a spear and I was in a position to do something about it after the fact, I’d stab and kill him too lol.

              Lilith isn’t great…I just don’t think Mephisto is the answer. That’s what I mean by choosing the lesser evil…he’s the worse choice out of the two. At least humanity has a bond with Lilith through being part of her extended family.

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              One question for you since you seem knowledgeable about the lore: What happened to the Nephalem after D3? In D3 the player character is a nephalem and in D4 we’re just some random human as far as I know. And that’s fine. I just want to know what happened to the player characters of D3 in the transit to D4.

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        1 year ago

        I feel like battling Mephisto and winning at least keeps humanity alive in its current form.

        Lilith might actually enslave everyone.