• OprahsedCreature@lemmy.ml
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    4 months ago
    • Whether you believe Ukraine belongs to Russia or not is immaterial. Russia the imperialist capitalist state, which is what replaced the Soviet Union that America worked to destabilize until it collapsed, has nukes, Ukraine does not. The ending was decided before the conflict started.

    • Taiwan is what remains of the old Republic of China that was mostly overtaken by the PRC. It also does not have nukes, but it does have sensitive chip manufacturing equipment. The politics of the island are divided.

    • Ethnic conflict in former Yugoslavia began when the Soviet Union collapsed. Do with that what you will.

    • South Korea was upheld by a series of brutal capitalist militarist dictatorships installed by the USA after its formation. It is part of a nuclear armed military alliance. Democracy is still relatively new there.

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      The ending was decided before the conflict started.

      What are you on about? If the Ukranians didn’t put up such a fierce resistance and without NATO aid the capitol would have been overrun, Ukranian government replaced with a Russian puppet regime and pro-western Ukrainians suppressed and persecuted. Through Ukrainians incalculable sacrifice they have saved at least part of their country and will get to be a part of western world.

      Decided my ass, you think Putin decided that?

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        For the sake of argument I’ll steelman your argument and assume it’s 100% true. Do you think this is sustainable long term as a bunch of nations’ markets are crashing and the US faces a new recession?

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          I don’t know what sovereignty has to do with markets or recessions. National security is always going to triumph over any other concern, especially when a foreign despot is out there to take over your country. This has been and continues to be a popular notion.

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          bunch of nations’ markets are crashing and the US faces a new recession?

          Bruh, we’ve been seeing signals of recession for over 2 years. Jumpy stock markets saw a number they didn’t like and jumped. Whether or not we actually see a recession remains to be seen and depends a lot on how much less jumpy institutions react to the jumpy stock market’s reaction

          Economic forecasts and financial decisions by institutions are already factoring in an expected rate cut on September, so I suspect it’s far too soon to be doomsaying that the next recession is here today