• ℕ𝕖𝕞𝕠@midwest.social
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    7 months ago

    I had an employee review with my manager this week, at my request. She told me she wasn’t comfortable uptraining me right now even though they badly need the help in the position I asked to be crosstrained for, because they’d rather hire someone just for the role; but we could talk about it again in two months. After a little digging, I found that (A) they can’t afford to lose me from my lower-paid role and (2) they know I’m looking for another job and don’t want to train me until I demonstrate I’m planning to stay.

    My response is that (A) well you’re definitely gonna lose me now and (2) I’m definitely no longer willing to stay.

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      7 months ago

      It’s companies gaslighting us that we are either looking for new roles, or we are working hard to make more money/ask for a raise or else we’ll find a new role.

      Managers see both these things as “not being part of the fam”, but really they just want to take more and give less while playing the victim.

  • kibiz0r@midwest.social
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    7 months ago

    There’s a great reply to this in the same publication: https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/letters/2024/04/27/quiet-quitters-or-good-workers/

    Sir, – I read with interest Olive Keogh’s article (“Quiet quitting: You always had workers who did 9-5 but it’s a creeping malaise, employers say”, April 25th).

    The article defines working one’s contract hours as a form of quitting, a contortion of fact that I have struggled to grasp since laying eyes on it.

    It is asserted that employees are obliged to put in extra hours, do additional work and recalibrate their work-life balance for the “benefits” of social capital, “wellbeing” and career success.

    I have a novel proposal. Pay employees in actual capital for the additional time they are expected to work.

    Dispense with the relaxation classes on their lunch breaks and the sweet treats and the tokenistic attitude of management to the labour that drives their business.

    Instead, resource staff sufficiently to complete work within business hours, respect the rights of staff to a fulfilling life not defined by their day jobs, and stop using gaslighting terms like “quiet quitting” for fulfilling the terms of their contract of employment.

    This may seem radical to those managers who have been around the block, but KPIs (key performance indicators) don’t spend time with my loved ones nor do they put food on the table. – Yours, etc,

    SHANE FITZPATRICK,

    Dublin 7.

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      7 months ago

      That letter is way too polite for the “go fuck yourselves” that I had in mind… I honestly think we should start actually spitting in the faces of managers of that kind that we happen to know in private life, be it family or neighbors, just show them disdain and disgust coming from people whom they have no power over.

  • Son_of_dad@lemmy.world
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    7 months ago

    Unionize people. I joined a union and there’s no “we’re a team” bullshit or the boss going “do me a favor”. 4pm hits, you drop what you’re doing and go home. You get paid for your job, and the union fees are nothing considering the pay is way higher for union workers in my field.

  • Blackmist@feddit.uk
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    7 months ago

    “Most people work just hard enough not to get fired and get paid just enough money not to quit.”

    – George Carlin.

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    So… Doing your job well is “quiet quitting” now? I don’t want my boss to think I’m quiet quitting, I Guess I’ll have to underperform instead.

    Quiet firing on the other hand is giving raises that are under inflation. Companies should stop this quiet firing shit.

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      7 months ago

      Giving raises? My employer quiet quit that more than a decade ago. Meanwhile inflation and price gouging march on.

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        7 months ago

        What proportion of people have jumped ship in the last ~8 years as a result? (Understand you could have good reason for sticking around.)

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      Quiet quitting has always referred to the extra bullshit that employers pressure employees into doing.

      In America we’ve fallen into this work culture that implies you aren’t really part of a team unless you are constantly putting forth more than what the employer is paying you for.

      The undertone of this headline is that managers feel uneasy because so-called “quiet quitters” won’t take on extra work or unpaid hours or exhibit overwhelming enthusiasm, but just do literally what they have to at a passable or high quality.

      The gaslighting part is that those workers aren’t doing anything wrong, but they aren’t bending over backwards for their employers, so corporate America wants to paint the picture that those workers are awful time thieves instead of just burnt out wage slaves.