Hello world!
We would like to start by saying thank you ❤, no really 🙏 THANK YOU to ALL the moderators out there!
Without you folks, we would have no one to help keep our community safe and help build the communities both here on Lemmy.World and on other fine instances. To this end, we want to make sure your voices are heard 📣 loud and clear📣.
So, in the spirit of transparency, we would like everyone to know that we are looking to help out the folks working on Sublinks. Over the last several months we have grown to be more than just Lemmy.World. We’ve added platforms such as Pixelfed and Sharkey to help offer our users more diverse options for expressing themselves online. We still are very committed to Mastodon as well.
We DO NOT plan on moving away from Lemmy as a software platform at this time. Any changes in our core services would need to be discussed extensively internally AND externally with our community members. We firmly believe in the growth of the Fediverse and without the users, there would only be software, and that’s no fun!
Sooo…
The Sublinks team has written up a little survey, which we feel is both thorough and inclusive. It covers a wide range of topics, such as user privacy, and community engagement, along with trying to gauge things that are difficult when moderating.
Also please be aware the information collected by this survey is completely anonymous. As many of us in the social sciences background know, if you want the REAL feelings of individuals, they need to feel safe to express themselves.
Please feel free to comment in this thread, we will do our best to respond to any genuine questions.
We look forward to hearing from each and every one of you!
=Sincerely,
Fedihosting Foundation
PS … also if this sounds like a corporate press release to you folks, we still punk 🤘😜🤘
PS … also if this sounds like a corporate press release to you folks, we still punk 🤘😜🤘
"YES FELLOW KIDS, WE ARE ALSO, HOW YOU SAY, STILL DOWN WITH “IT” "
Why are .world admins always so hostile? First Antik and now you?
Why does this instance continuously bleed admins? This is why we had an abrupt change on the piracy change
Why was that post shamefully hidden in your community while every donation post and survey pinned for days?
Why do you continuously make up lies about the lemmy developers and spread negativity about them when they promoted this instance at the start of the reddit exodus?
Rookie has a horrible track record with privacy concerns and user-data respect, first with the .world scraper discord bot and now with a microsoft survey?!?
From your reply below it is clear that .world is going to move to sublinks (you are all developing it right?) you mention a script that will automatically move communities there. What about those people that don’t want to move, will you allow them to move their community away before you forcefully transfer it?
Will .world federate with Meta on Sublinks or with lemmy?
Will you commit to having a town-hall with the users? This is by far the worst instance for user communication and we deserve to know if that will continue.
- We are only hostile if you are hostile to us
- This was again, sry for this a misscommunication, but to be fair in a legal way, first act then announce it is a common approach.
- They just wanted a (indirect) test dummy to test their software on a big scale, and we are sick of it, we are always the first that goes head first into their untested, experimental features, that they probably even didnt started in their test environment and not even mark it as experimental.
- The .world “scraper” bot?! is a verificiaton bot for our discord server to reduce trolls, that just uses simple api calls to verify through a dm that it is you and btw, this isnt created by me it is created by someone on the sublinks team.
- This will be discussed, so no idea.
- Probably, if the users toxicity reduces here, probably yes, we are sorry for that, we hope to improve.
I am sorry but the FHF / Lemmy instance admins are just humans. And yeah there is a feature now to export your blocks, community subscriptions and we are not blocking you to use it if you are really sick of us.
We DO NOT plan on moving away from Lemmy as a software platform at this time.
Well that is concerning.
Is it?
I was under the impression that Sublinks was basically a drop-in replacement for the backend of Lemmy, just with better mod tools. If Lemmy.world switched to it, would normal users (not mods) even notice or care?
From what I can tell, it’s more worrying that .world is trying to essentially build up a new site like Mbin, from the ground up, in Java, rather than just working to make Lemmy better. It appears to be a severely underestimated workload for no benefit whatsoever, other than “better” mod tools, which could be folded into Lemmy either way.
I don’t understand this post, at all… Did something happen to Lemmy? This post has very clear intentions.
If you just wished to help the folks at sublinks to gather information on moderation tools, as you claimed, you should have just opened an issue on their github or on their sublemmy or whatever. Do not create a sticky for 200k people to see.
Yes the 0.19.3 upgrade happened.
We wanted to give their survey more reach, as a sort of collaboration.
edit: version typo
LMAO, Sublinks devs are so engrained in Java that they want to rewrite Rust in Java, and their survey they send is written in Office 365? They’re a meme.
The Java idea is absurd and shouldn’t be taken seriously.
I disagree with the Lemmy devs’ political views a great deal, but:
- It’s open source so you can audit if they’re doing anything bad
- Just fork it and improve if you have issues with the code they’re writing / features
Java is a horrible language. Nearly every developer I’ve talked to in the last several decades agrees, even previously hardcore Java devs. Please just stop.
To your tips:
- We dont know rust
- We dont know rust
We dont want “just” to rewrite lemmy to java, we want to improve the code and thus we ALL dont know and want to understand rust, we chose to use java, as it is good old programming language where structure is already known.
Both languages are good, its just depends on what developer you ask. Both are valid options for a rest api.
Sublinks just wants to add a wider spectrum to the fediverse!
Hard disagree. I think Java is objectively bad.
I can give Rust to a completely inexperienced dev straight out if high school and they will be able to write a multi threaded program without data races since Rust was designed so that isn’t possible. That’s one example of many.
Even null is something the creator of null said was an objective mistake, and that concept is embedded into Java, while it doesn’t exist in Rust.
Learning Rust to the point where your code is correct is absolutely not hard at all, which is why it’s so bizarre when people create projects like this.
Like said its personal opinion. But what do we see with lemmy? Its on rust and still there are many bugs in there and the feature development is relative slow than to other open source projects.
