Patrick Breyer, a staunch defender of digital rights, laments the Pirate Party’s exit from the EU Parliament as a blow to online privacy.

  • themoonisacheese@sh.itjust.works
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    5 months ago

    I was considering voting for the pirate party, but they polled at less than 5% in France and it was not a useful vote, which was evidently needed.

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      5 months ago

      I still voted for them, because I could.

      And I’m sick of the useful vote thing, I did it last time in 2022 against Le Pen and all I got was a lousy President.

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        5 months ago

        Better a lousy president than a fascist, hell, boring politicians is what we should aim for!

        • index@sh.itjust.works
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          5 months ago

          both macron and lepen are two corrupted fascists tricking you like a chicken into choosing a side and voting for them instead of “wasting your vote”

    • HeavyRaptor@lemmy.zip
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      5 months ago

      We just had a vote for government officials along the EP vote. Less than 60% turned up which means the most common vote was a vote for nothing. The average voter doesn’t care.

      • schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de
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        At least voters who don’t turn up are harmless. If all the people who voted for EPP-affiliated parties just didn’t turn up instead, we’d face far fewer problems.

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    5 months ago

    I had somewhat hoped that my fellow countrymen in Germany would not fall for the obtuse populism of the right, but that is exactly what has happened.

    I’m afraid there’s nothing left to counter this, because voters obviously no longer care about rational arguments and don’t even want to acknowledge the real problems of our time. They make it easy for themselves and just blame everything on illegal migration or whatever - just as the right-wingers tell them to do.

    In this reality characterized by stupidity and false attributions of blame, it is hardly surprising that important but somewhat abstract topics such as data protection are no longer of interest to the masses. It’s enough to make you cry.

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        The saddest thing about this is that the Europeans and especially the Germans should really know better. But no, all the lessons from our dark history seem to have been forgotten - or they are simply ignored so that one can once again live in the comfortable world of simple explanations where there is always some minority to blame.

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      5 months ago

      obtuse populism of the right

      Don’t fall for propaganda either. Left and right are two buzzword used by rulers to manipulate public opinion and always stay in power.

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    5 months ago

    Quick reminder that in a liberal democracy, social movements are more important for progressive change than electoralism.

    Join a union. Be it trade union, housing union, or whatever (or even any affinity group). And get active.

    Complaining about election results achieves nothing, but sow despair.

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      5 months ago

      “Progressive” change will only take you further away from liberal democracy and free society.

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    These results are just a drop in the bucket in relation to the grim state of German election results and overall societal discourse.

    There’s not much room for optimism right now. Very dark skies ahead and things may get much worse before they will become better.

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        5 months ago

        Pretty much the same propaganda “package” is being used all over the world.

        Governments work hard and spend billions of public money to try to stay in power, they spend these in modern and technological warfare too.

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    5 months ago

    There are more parties who defend internet privacy then just the pirate party. Won’t matter much tho with the current rightwing majority.

    • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
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      5 months ago

      Is the incoming majority particularly anti-piracy? I thought they were more fixated on leaving the EU, gutting the “woke” public sector, and rounding up all the immigrants for deportation.

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        5 months ago

        Just to make things clear, the pirate party isn’t directly related to piracy. There are ongoing efforts to render end-to-end encryption illegal in Europe as we speak. Dark times are coming

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          There are ongoing efforts to render end-to-end encryption illegal in Europe as we speak.

          I can’t imagine how you stop all end to end encryption across a continent while you’re exiting the continent-wide governing body.

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              They whom? Is every country going to have it’s own national firewall, complete with highly sophisticated SMS-only encryption detecting service?

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    5 months ago

    What did the pirate party stand for? I heard of them before, but not much what they stand for other than digital privacy.

    I think this election was mainly focused on Migration, economy and green deal. Mainly why the right took over and the green and left lost. People are seeing the negative effect of migration more and more, and diplomats cannot hide it anymore.