• queermunist@lemmy.world
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    “I want to attend your school just like my grandfather” = This is fine

    “I want to attend your school because my grandfather wasn’t allowed to” = This is not

    Think about that for a second.

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        Absolutely.

        And until that’s the case, there’s a clear double standard that benefits white people.

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          A pure merit-based approach also overwhelming benefits white people though, because they have a lot more generational income to help their kids get ahead in life.

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            Hook me up with that generational wealth. The ATM doesn’t accept race as a condition for providing money.

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          Rich people.

          It benefits rich people.

          Do the “affirmative action” on the basis of how wealthy a person’s background is and you get many more people from minorities than without it, whilst not unfairly helping people with the right genetics from wealthy backgrounds and ignoring people with the wrong genetics from poor backgrounds.

          Strangely the solution of simply helping kids from poor backgrounds is never chosen, and instead it’s always “lets help people who happen to have a certain set of genes even if their parents are filthy rich and their life has been a long red carpet so far, same as the non-minority kids”.

          “Let’s not talk about wealth” (the gigantic, crushing elephant in the room) whilst doing a Theatre Of Equality is quite a peculiar American thing.

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            This is a bad take.

            Racial admissions existed to counter the other injustice - an imperfect solution to the inherent racism of legacy admissions.

            Now that affirmative action has ended, the injustice of legacy admissions has been made even worse. Racism is now the law.

            And it will never end.

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              Racism is now the law.

              So we need laws to not be racist? This is an insanely pessimistic take that nothing has improved the issue of racism in the US.

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                It’s not pessimistic - it’s simply an honest understanding of how white supremacism is fundamental to the US. To be clear, things like affirmative action didn’t really improve things all that much - it was a band-aid on a traumatic amputation - but it was at least something.

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                  It was a good band-aid for the time because racism was a massive problem back then, though, I sincerely doubt it’s needed today. I’m not saying racism isn’t a problem today, but the idea that universities must be regulated for them to accept non-white applications ignores the strides we’ve taken as a society. We don’t need the band-aid anymore.

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                    To be clear the Supreme Courts decision here is a regulation on the universities. Not a removal of regulations.

                    Affirmative action was an option that institutions could choose if they thought was appropriate… schools that used to ban POC wanted to accept disproportionately more of them. Now that option has been regulated away.

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                    The US is as fundamentally white supremacist today as it was way back then - if you need reminding, just think back to 2016 when more than half of all white people in the US voted a KKK-approved colostomy bag full of tanning lotion into the Waffle House. Or you could just take a look at who the main victims of the carceral slavery system are.

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            You are correct here, why would we not celebrate this just because there are more issues that need corrected?