Please confine all news pertaining to Russia-Ukraine war to this thread exclusively. Any links shared outside of this thread will be subject to removal.

  • Imhotep@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    I strongly disagree with the decision to centralize all ukraine war news in a megathread.

    That’s not how information is consumed on a medium like Lemmy. What you’re doing makes the topic invisible for the vast majority of users.

    • hjl@lemmy.world
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      1 year ago

      I just realized that this is an active thread, I thought the feed hadn’t updated since June 25th, as many other community feeds are intermittent or have multi day lags. Maybe have a daily thread or something to indicate aliveness?

    • guyman@lemmy.world
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      1 year ago

      I totally agree with you. This is a very inefficient way to share information, blending comments with postings.

      The solution is to have the option to filter dominant topics the same way /r/worldnews does. We should do this in addition to having a megathread, again just like /r/worldnews.

    • N00dle@lemmy.world
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      1 year ago

      Too many things happening to make a new post for every single event.

      • grozzle@lemmy.world
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        1 year ago

        Dude this is over two weeks old already. The date in the title makes it look like it was a daily thread for that one day. You’re effectively hiding news from a large fraction of subscribers with this policy.

        • N00dle@lemmy.world
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          1 year ago

          Yeah the megathread being so old is an issue. I meant a megathread being daily would make sense.

          • grozzle@lemmy.world
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            1 year ago

            Ah, I just realised, I mistook you for someone else. I guess because of the vowel, I thought you’re @Ruud who runs this lemmy instance.

            That’s why I wrote as if you’re the one making the decision - sorry.

  • Rabbithole@kbin.social
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    1 year ago

    Does anyone else think that being seen as weak and capitulating to Prigozhin here is basically a death sentence to Putin?

    Doing that has to have just put SO MUCH blood in the water for every internal agency/power-block with aspirations of taking him down and replacing him.

    Apparently all you need is 20,000 men and Putin’s defenceless…

    My opinion is that this is going to cause chaos.

    The fact that Putin didn’t have Wagner immediately atomized on the spot suggests that he wasn’t powerful enough to do so. Not a statement that someone in Putin’s position would want to make, I would think.

    • ronaldtemp1@lemmy.world
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      1 year ago

      Of course we both are speculating without any proof, I am also merely speaking of my gut feeling.

      I have been thinking that the rhetoric of saying Putin is weak because Prigozhin was able to momentarily rebel is kind of wishful thinking. I think weak is a pretty strong word.

      If Putin is as weak as some of us think he is, Prigozhin would have continued to march towards Moscow already.

      At the same time, if Putin is as strong as some of us think he is, his army would have reached Kyiv with a new regime installed already.

      Hence the truth should be lying somewhere in between, for now.

      I know it’s not something many people want to hear because it isn’t a polarized statement, for example, it’s not as exciting as saying Putin is super strong and can nuke everything, we better bow down to him or Ukraine is super strong and can occupy Moscow tomorrow, let’s give them F-35.

      The reality is war is a boring and extremely slow meat grinder. Sometimes you cannot stop it once it’s started (because deaths can be remembered for a long time) and sometimes you cannot avoid it (forever appeasement is not far from escalating the situation and empowering the bully which is worse off). I can only wish that Ukraine winning the war can prevent the potential China-Taiwan war from happening.

      When new weapons arrive on site, I expect things to change. I wish Ukraine get Crimea back.

      • Rabbithole@kbin.social
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        1 year ago

        Clearly, if Prigozhin marched, it’s because he thought it as having a valid chance of success. He left because he was paid what he wanted, be it money or power, etc. Putin, notably capitulated

        He did not carpet bomb the fuck, so to speak, out of the traitors. Those threatening his reign. It tells much for those who wish to hear.

    • BOMBS@lemmy.world
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      Yes! Putin is not some superduper strongman that controls his country as his public persona pretends. He is the guy that the key leaders of Russia allow to be in charge. The moment he is unable to meet their needs is the moment he is replaced. Those key leaders just saw that Putin came this close 🤏 to losing their power to an unpredictable madman, and Putin let the guy off because that was his only option!

      Putin’s days are numbered. He not only left Moscow vulnerable to attack, he gave someone the power to demonstrate it on the world stage. Before Feb 2022, Russia was internationally feared as the world’s second strongest military, and now, the joke is that it’s the second strongest military in Russia. That someone even outed that the whole premise of the invasion of Ukraine was false, that the military is terribly messing it up, and that Russia itself is vulnerable to attack. Those key leaders want to maintain their power, and Putin is not the man to do it anymore.

      I think there is nothing Putin can do short of a complete Stalin-like Great Purge to stay alive, and I think that purge is impossible with its international relations as he has made enemies with everyone in the West. Putin is rightfully scared. Prigozhin, whether purposefully or in a oblivious narcissistic rage fit, just sealed the fate of Russia. This will undoubtedly encourage other leaders to take a swing at Putin, which makes him a liability to the key leaders’ power. Either Russia has to embrace a democratic revolution where power is stripped from the oligarchs (very unlikely considering opposition disorganization and the country’s economic contributions to the world stage) or a new more authoritarian leader will step in place to reign in control again. Those are the options, so I forsee life in Russia for the general population getting much worse quickly.

    • bedrooms@kbin.social
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      1 year ago

      Putin controls oligarchs through his wealth. Prigozhin can’t do that, and both of the two know it. We’ll see who’s really fucked up now. Prigozhin or Luca.

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    1 year ago

    https://nafo.uk/explore

    Looks like nafo has moved onto Mastodon guys!

    Pro-Ukrainian talk has been hampered on Twitter, so its time to just spread NAFO-like talk to Mastodon. There’s no more benefit to using Twitter for this.

  • SweetChilliJesus@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    New aid package to Ukraine from Australia announced

    *"70 additional vehicles will include 28 armoured trucks, and 28 M113 armoured vehicles, taking the total gifted to 56. It also includes 14 special operations vehicles. It will also fund additions to artillery ammunition, and $10m to the UN office for the coordination of humanitarian affairs.

    “This is about helping the Ukrainian people with shelter, health services, clean water and sanitation,” prime minister Albanese says.

    This additional support will make a real difference, helping the Ukrainian people who continue to show great courage in the face of Russia’s illegal, unprovoked and immoral war. It is sobering that 16 months on from Russia’s invasion, its brutal conflict continues."*

  • ronaldtemp1@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    If I were Prigozhin, I would not return to Russia after the war. I wouldn’t even eat or drink anything in which might have even the slightest chance of having radioactive material.

  • N00dle@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Lukashenko shares some more details about the day of Prigozhin’s mutiny.

    He reveals there were no defense lines in Russia up until 200 km from Moscow (some regions are more equal than others?) and carefully chooses words to present Putin as a strong leader, while pointing out it was Lukashenko who did all the negotiating.

    https://mstdn.social/@Free_Press/110674608156175504

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      1 year ago

      I like how Prigozhin could just waltz in after the getting a pass for staging a coup. It shows how Putin has gone weak.

    • Kurama@lemmy.ml
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      1 year ago

      Wagner forces will integrate conventional russian forces. In a few weeks, Wagner will no longer exist. And of course, the soldiers will probably return to occupied Ukraine. Let’s see if they will return to south of Ukraine or Kharkiv.