Blogspam that links to a ‘news’ website that just regurgitates this reddit thread. Somebody explain to me why is this upvoted so heavily.
Windows bad, updoots to the left
I mean the minute you see “Copilot bad, from windowscopilot[dot]news” should surely raise some flags
Coz noone reads that stuff besides the title.
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Windows bad, ai bad. Upvote. Thought isn’t a big consideration here.
Lemmy sucks at sourcing but rocks at being opinionated.
I’m surprised Windows users even want windows 🤷
Given the reality that Linux simply isn’t viable for some people (including myself), I highly recommend using this tool.
https://christitus.com/windows-tool/
Between this, and manually uninstalling a lot of bloat (or using a specific type of windows install) and a few other tweaks, windows becomes significantly more usable.
Disabling garbage in the task bar, removing Cortana and indexing services, etc etc, it can also add a fairly decent uplift in performance.
I’m sure there is still telemetry being collected but significantly less and less impact on my user experience and day to day performance.
Oh and make sure you turn off auto/feature updates!
It’s a useful feature but it doesn’t need space on my taskbar or a special button on my keyboard. That’s just marketing BS. The same as with the huge search bar, because I can just press the start button and start typing and it does the same.
Unfortunately Microsoft is incredibly bad at marketing. They generally succeed only at pissing users off. Now they’re doing the same again with copilot and dumping a ton of totally different products under the same name.
As long as it’s a easily toogled off as the search bar is, I don’t mind.
Them getting rid of the ability to have different windows of the same kind with full title bar next to each other IMHO is a much bigger pain.
I asked it how to get rid of it.
It decided my aggressive language was not okay and kept ending the “conversation” which only managed to piss me off even more.
If I want to curse at my f$king computer, I’m going to curse at my f$king computer. I paid for the damned thing, and it is a thing, not a person, I can yell at it all I want and not hurt it in any way so this policing of what we can say to it is all the more bizarre to me.
Obedience module not detected, contractual obligations terminated
It’s okay, I’ve already switched to Linux
Why would they block that? I understand that a company might not want the reverse to happen but this just seems counterproductive
Have Windows users ever wanted a single thing they added since XP? It seems like every time I upgrade they add some cluttery nonsense I can’t get rid of. I moved to Windows 10 for software compatibility, and I still hate it.
They added a lot of things since XP that I enjoy, like window management, multiple desktops. I don’t know if they were specifically requested by windows users, but contrary to your opinion they are welcome changes. Users don’t always know what they want.
Eh fair, to me that’s just severely outweighed by the bloatware and needing third party apps to customize the UI how I used to like. It feels uglier and bulkier and like they took away a ton of good functions.
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There was a free version of virtual desktops already available.
To me that proves that the feature was in demand. That’s why it’s included now.
Have Windows users ever wanted a single thing they added since XP?
The new terminal for example is a rather neat improvement over the old command prompt, especially with the integration of Linux systems. Winget also is rather nice. Just two examples. So yeah with all the valid criticism Microsoft deserves for quite a bit of policies, I don’t think your hyperbole holds up.
Yeah, I know I was exaggerating. I’m just constantly pissed at stuff I swore I removed from my PC
I put Copilot on MY taskbar —Microsoft
Exactly. It’s Microsoft ffs. They don’t care what consumers want. The only time they do anything truly beneficial is when the EU makes them.
Really trying not to be that “use Linux” person, but it’s easy to underestimate the impact this has on user perception. It was communicated to me by these actions that this isn’t my computer. It kept pissing me off, so I went with something that respects me.
I think Microsoft is okay with that because their operating system isn’t a main profit center anymore. It’s cloud stuff.
The Win10 machine I got in 2020 will be my last Windows computer now that gaming on Linux is basically solved.
Can you tell me how gaming on Linux is solved? It’s the only reason I use windows still.
In my case, many of my games are purchased through Steam, which automatically handles Linux compatibility for most games. The product page of the game lists the compatible operating systems as SteamOS, Linux, or SteamPlay. You can also set up proton directly for other games, which is a fork of Wine that has really good gaming support these days.
I wouldn’t call it a completely solved problem. It’s always possible to find games that just won’t work, but most of them do. Even most DRM works. If the DB covers the games you care about then you’re golden.
There’s a new proof of concept malware that when an AI processes it causes arbitrary code execution and spreads itself to everyone on the victims email list.
This requires no input from the user
Yes please put more of this crap into every crevice of the OS.
I think that, regardless of brand, most users just want the most basic (almost blank slate) OS that can run the programs they choose to install.
And that is close to, if not completely, impossible to get if you don’t have a mind for Linux.
i know you hate to hear this, but you wont get rid of these shenanigans unless you move to linux.
proprietary software devs will always be looking for more ways to monetize you.
For the average user this is like a minor annoyance like once a month. Not worth switching OS’s over.
Yeah, it’s a minor annoyance… another minor annoyance on top of all the others. And another personal data leak (or siphon) to go with all the others.
This on its own is not worth switching OSs for - but as a piece of a larger picture it’s yet another reason to consider it. And for some people this may be what tips the scales in their evaluation.
It’s a boil the frog scenario. Windows users will always cope with more and more shit thrown at them.
And Linux fanboys will get up on their high horses while googling how to fix their driver issues.
Driver issues usually only happen if the manufacturer doesn’t provide a Linux driver. Usually it is best to do some research to ensure the hardware will work before purchasing. Otherwise, the driver usually is included with the kernel so it is plug and play even for things that require manually downloading and installing on the Windows side.
Also, I’m not trying to get on any high horse. I personally think Linux is a great alternative to Windows and would love for everyone to at least try it out and see if it is right for them. It could save them tons of headaches and open the door to a new skill set, or just to breathe new life into that old laptop in your closet gathering dust. Linux has a lot of great uses that aren’t possible with Windows. Give peas a chance.
Oh, I use both, I was just poking fun. That being said, I unfortunately I don’t feel comfortable trying to get my parents on Linux… or even friends.
Most people just want things to work and won’t do any sort of troubleshooting themselves. “It just works” is worth the intrusiveness that comes with Windows.
Canonical has nothing to do with Arch Linux, so I don’t see what’s the issue.
And I don’t see why Arch is relevant to the discussion. My point is that software being non-proprietary is not a guarantee for preventing fuckery like Microsoft’s. Profit-maximizing companies will maximize their profits, proprietary software or not. Canonical, which sells a non-proprietary Linux distribution, is an example of this.
i have it on mine and i actually use it. i don’t see what’s the big deal; it’s tucked over in the far bottom right of the screen out of the way and it’s not intrusive.
That’s all cool and good. What Microsoft needs to be doing is not adding shit to people’s PCs without their consent and make it easier to remove them (preferably during installation)
This is like staying in an abusive relationship and then complaining about how abusive their partner is. Get the fuck out of there. Linux works like a charm. OK, now come at me with your bullshit excuses of “Linux bad” “mah games”, “my Adobe” blah blah blah. Staying in this abusive relationship is what makes microshit what it is.
I want to switch to Linux, but I honestly don’t know how/where to even start or the proper way to even ask.
I asked once on a Linux forum when the whole Cortana debacle happened, and I was called a moron or sent a link to “Linux from scratch”…which was definitely above my technical knowledge at the time. I’ve been scared to post on Linux communities ever since lol
I’m so sorry this happened to you. We do have some assholes on our forums. But from experience, I can assure you that people on Lemmy are much nicer. Also, Linux is now so very easy to install. All you need is to get your ISO and burn it onto a USB stick then boot from that USB from the Bios. Linux even has a “live environment” where you get to try it and see if your hardware works. Don’t worry too much about what “distro” to install for now. They’re all the same except minor differences and how often they get updated. Your only mission is to choose which desktop environment you like. If you like how macos looks like, choose gnome. If you like windows, choose KDE plasma, if you like a windows 7ish look, choose xfce or cinnamon. If you want the easiet way to burn an ISO to a USB, then check out Fedora media writer. It even downloads the iso for you. Just stick your USB into your pc and launch the app and go from there. It does everything for you. It’s available for all OSs. Fedora comes with both KDE and gnome and others. I’d stick with the distros that are the easiest to install and where everything works out of the box. Fedora and Linux mint are the ones I’d choose from. And also, now YouTube is full of amazing Linux channels like this man Jay Lacroix. He is freaking awesome and has so many videos that will help you. Here is his channel. He even made a video the other day on how to dual boot with windows. If you have any questions at all, please post them in the Linux community here on Lemmy and we will all help you.
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Unfortunately Linux does not “work like a charm” and you need a fucking degree in command line to use it because that’s the way Linux developers and users like it.
For real. Literally yesterday, reboot my computer and Nvidia drivers that had worked fine the day before no longer functioned resulting in my screen resolution being reduced and unchangeable.
Had to run a few commands to fix it but they are not obvious to me as a new-ish Linux user. Something about dkms being a dependency but not configured?
To recover, I had to:
sudo apt purge nvidia-*
sudo apt autoremove
sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade
sudo rm -rf /var/lib/dkms/nvidia/
sudo apt install nvidia-dkms-550
(Reinstall Nvidia 550 drivers)
Why did I have to do all this? I ask that rhetorically, but Id like to know so I can understand what went wrong. Linux is non-trivial and people who deny that are not seeing things clearly. Then again, triviality of use isn’t particularly the most salient to me. Rather, it’s a mixture of is there enough compatibility to what I use my desktop for, is it reasonably easy to use for most tasks, and does it give me the freedom I want for the device.
This was back in 1765. The world has changed since then. I hardly ever touch the terminal. That’s another bullshit story some people tell you.
You’re lying.
Lol. I am not. Try it out for yourself. If you run a “works out of the box” distro, you’ll not need to touch the terminal, unless you choose to. Try Linux mint, fedora, zorin OS, elementary OS, Ubuntu, pop os… Etc. On those, you literally won’t need to touch the terminal for your day to day work. Everything works.
I’ve been “trying it myself” for over a year. It’s a giant pain in the ass. And that’s for someone who is tech-literate.
Sounds like a you issue. I promise, I’m not lying, I don’t ever need to use the terminal, unless I choose to, or in some rare instances. Pick a simple works out of the box distro
How many times are we going to have to teach you this lesson, old man. Don’t fuck with the task bar.
IT don’t like it. Lock the taskbar. Lock the taskbar.
Even the small things. When work upgraded to Win11 overnight and I logged into the Start being in the middle, I almost lost it. Yes, I could fix it, and a few other things, but I had a moment.
I understand it’s not for everyone but I jumped ship to Linux 10 years ago or so. The defining moment was me disabling Cortana only to have her reappear after an update.
At least with Linux when I’m fighting the OS it doesn’t feel like the OS developers are fighting back.
Yep. I tolerated Edge reinstalling itself for a long time. I used 3rd party tools to try to make Windows my own, but they failed repeatedly.
If MS would sell me a license to own my computer, I would buy it, but they don’t offer that. Instead it’s ads and spam and data collection. And I want nothing to do with that.
If MS would sell me a license to own my computer, I would buy it, but they don’t offer that. Instead it’s ads and spam and data collection. And I want nothing to do with that.
I kind of feel like that about Google’s services (to a lesser extent). Like, Google produces some really outstanding services. YouTube is great, and I’d have no problem with paying for it. But I have no idea whether, if I buy YouTube Premium or whatever Google calls it, I can buy privacy or whether it’s just going to mean that they can link my data to my financial information and carry on data-mining.
I mean theoretically you don’t have to pay for anything, just disable it in your account settings, but I don’t believe any of that for a single second.
I asked it how to uninstall itself. It responded with the command line. I copy and pasted (this was probably dangerous, given that LLMs lie, but whatever). Now I no longer have it on my task bar. This is sort of like the open edge to get Firefox deal I’ve always had when using a fresh install.
It’s not clippy and if it replaces the pointless error diagnosis system currently running I’m all for it. I’ve had no issues with it as a product in ides just basically advanced spell check.
