Several years ago I waited until the first hot day of summer to turn on my AC. This is how I found out about one of the busiest times for repairmen and had to sweat for two weeks. Now I do a test run a couple of weeks before it heats up. Same goes for the furnace at the end of Autumn.

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    Relatedly: there are HUGE tax credits for heat pumps right now; I’m actually paying several thousand dollars less for a new heat pump than I would have for a new central AC. (Installed as a two stage system, so I can still use my regular boiler when it gets cold)

    So if anybody else is up for a replacement you should definitely take a look at any federal + state + local credits you might get for going that route.

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    We were told we needed the unit replaced because it needed Freon that was no longer available.

    Somehow my dad has a guy who came to the house and filled it up and left very discreetly.

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      It was probably running R-22 which you can still get but it isn’t manufactured anymore. It’s ozone depleting so all production and import of the stuff was completely banned in 2020 and it has been in the process of being slowly phased out since 2004. The only source for it is stuff recovered out of other systems or any existing stocks which are running out very quickly. That means it gets more expensive every year. Now a days most HVAC companies will just replace those systems rather than fixing them for that reason.

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        Also it’s become very expensive compared to the new stuff for this reason. Like over 10x more expensive per pound.

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      I have window units. You think I’m going to leave those in during winter? I like my heat inside my house, thank you very much.

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        I’m just saying it’s better for the units to run once in a while, and to test them to know they are still working. I guess you could technically run a window unit for a few min when it isn’t in the window but watch out for condensation drain.

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        Refrigeration tech here. Don’t run your home AC in the winter unless it was specifically designed for that. I think the person you’re responding too was assuming that because that’s what you’re supposed to do for cars that you should do it for your home too.

        In cars the AC compressor runs off the belts so there is a shaft seal that can dry out and crack if the system is not run every so often. On residential AC systems the compressor is run by an electric motor that is sealed inside the compressor housing. There is no shaft seal that can fail. Running your home AC in the winter can actually damage it if your system wasn’t designed for cold weather running. When it’s cold outside liquid refrigerant will tend to condense inside the compressor. When the compressor starts in those situations it will immediately suck in and try to compress that liquid refrigerant. Unless you’re a physicist, liquids are incompressable. So you now have your compressor trying to compress something that can’t be compressed. This is not good for the compressor to put it lightly. The best case scenario here is the compressor manages to force the liquid refrigerant out adding a whole lot of premature wear in the process. The worst case scenario is that something inside the compressor goes pop and it dies.

        On systems designed to run in cold weather there will be a little band heater on the compressor to keep it warm and prevent refrigerant from condensing inside it. However that is not the norm for residential AC just because most residential AC systems don’t need it and it would just be a waste of electricity.

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        Most machinery lasts longer when you run it every month or so at least. For an AC unit there is lubricant in the refrigerant, so circulating the refrigerant once in a while keeps the seals in good condition. It would also keep the moving parts of things like fans from corroding and seizing up.

        For vehicles, running the them occasionally circulates the fluids like oil and antifreeze. The oil keeps the moving parts of the engine coated and doesn’t allow things like condensation to rust the internal parts.

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          Same reason why if you have part time 4WD in a vehicle you should put upwards of 10 miles per month with 4WD engaged (just try to keep it to straight roads). Check your owners manual first, but every 4WD vehicle I’ve owned has recommended it.

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          This is definitely good advice for vehicle AC because like you said, it keeps the compressor seals in good shape. However it isn’t as important for residential AC systems because they use fully hermitic compressors. There is no shaft seal that can fail. Depending on your outdoor temps, running your home AC in the winter can actually be very bad for it.

          When it’s cold outside liquid refrigerant will tend to settle in the compressor crank case that means when that compressor starts up it will immediately suck in and try to compress that incompressable liquid refrigerant. Depending on the compressor type this will drastically reduce it’s lifespan or just straight up kill it. On systems designed to be used in cold weather there will be a crank case heater on the compressor to boil off any liquid refrigerant in the crank case. But if your system wasn’t built with cold weather running in mind then it won’t have one of those.

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        Meh, 104 degrees feels like 117. It’s…bearable but not enjoyable. What I dislike is it still being 92 at 9pm.

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    Yup, what we learned here. Our air is working fine as we did get a new one not too long ago. So need it during the summer time around here in the midwest.

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    This is true of car ACs as well. Many modern cars with climate control do use the AC to some degree in defrosting, but some use periodically will keep seals from drying out and causing leaks.

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    If you have a portable AC unit don’t forget to clean the air filter(s) before you start using it for the season!

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    You should actually be getting your annual routine maintenance as recommended by the manufacturer.

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      The people that installed my new HVAC this time last year called me just this morning … do you work for them?