• Hyperreality@kbin.social
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    8 months ago

    The threats are constant. The last one, less than two weeks ago.

    Never believe that trolls like that are unaware of how absurd their replies are. They know. They don’t care. They enjoy acting in bad faith, because they don’t actually want to persuade anyone with rational arguments. They want to intimidate, anger and disconcert people.

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      The article refers very specifically to a situation I. 2022.

      If you think I’m trolling , find me the communication, speech or transcript, from 2022, where putin said he was going to use nukes in Ukraine

      It’s needs to be prime source, please. Not An article saying “Putin said”.

      you won’t find it , because jt doesn’t exist.

      You will instead be confronted with the fact that somewhere along the way, you have lost the ability determine what is a real piece of journalism, and what is click bait, for dead heads.

      Edit : and if you are paying attention, I’ve made no comment on the war itself . Only the quality of the articl. So my best advice, is take a deep breath and d carefully consider the words you read, before formulating an opinion and writing a reply.

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        I think you just have a hard time comprending what a threat to do something is.

        Threats are not often direct statements if intent. Other things like moving nuclear weapons closer to the front is a form of threats. Or saying you will use nukes to defend your territory then shortly passing a law which claims the land you invaded as your territory.

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          8 months ago

          Removed, Civility:

          Rule 5: Keep it civil. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (perjorative, perjorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (perjorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect!

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            Lol it what world is my comment above a personal attack or being uncivil.

            But them gaslighting everyone on the forums about Russian nuclear threats being fake news isn’t smh.

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              I was debating putting a /s on there, I guess I should’ve oops

              I 100% agree with you, I was making fun of that one account copying and pasting rules in reply to comments calling out that kind of mis/disinformation

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            Okay completely unsubstantial reply. English must not be your first language if you don’t consider those clear examples of a threat.

            русский бот

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              What do you want me to do ? You’ve completely strawmanned it. You wanna argue about what can be interpreted as a threat, go ahead, but you’ll need to find someone interested.

              I’ve shown that this is a garbage article, that’s not original work but instead written about another article, which itself was based on a non specific threat. Which is the only claim I ever made.

              On the other hand, You’ve shown you’ll buy anything you read on the internet, and that you prefer to argue with people rather than do any thinking - and I’m afraid that’s not my problem.

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        September 21, 2022 … In an address to Russians Putin announced he would call up 300,000 reservists to fight in Ukraine and backed a plan to annex parts of the country, hinting to the West he was prepared to use nuclear weapons to defend Russia. “If the territorial integrity of our country is threatened, we will use all available means to protect our people - this is not a bluff,” Putin said.

        https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/exclusive-nato-chief-says-putins-ukraine-escalation-dangerous-reckless-2022-09-21/

        “I would like to remind those who make such statements about Russia that our country also possesses various means of destruction, and in some cases they are more modern than those of NATO countries. When the territorial integrity of our country is threatened, we, of course, will use all the means at our disposal to protect Russia and our people. This is not a bluff. And those who try to blackmail us with nuclear weapons should know that the weathervane can turn and point towards them.”

        https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russian-president-vladimir-putin-announces-partial-mobilisation-2022-09-21/

        And video:

        https://youtu.be/e8gZUQMqDAI?t=91

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          Removed, racism against Russians is still racism.

          Rule 4: Posts or comments that are homophobic, transphobic, racist, sexist, anti-religious, or ableist will be removed. “Ironic” prejudice is just prejudiced.

          /s

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          No good mate . No nuclear threat, unless attacked with nuclear weapons. This is literally everyone stance on nukes - apart from maybe the Norks .

          ‘We will use any means necessary to defend our people …blah blah’. Is the most generic war time rhetoric going.

          Read it without bias.

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      Keep it civil. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (perjorative, perjorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (perjorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect!