Like many other subreddits, r/Finland is allowing its users to vote for whether or not they should a) reopen as normal, b) remain closed, or c) remain in protest mode.
However, the admins just sent them a nastygram essentially saying that’s not allowed:
Your community sees well over 2 million unique visitors each month. Allowing a small segment of those users to make a decision for a community forever does not make sense. There are a huge number of people that use this space now and who will in the future
Polling to close is not a viable option that will return a result that resolves this situation
However, mods can also see traffic stats, which show them as closer to 20k uniques per month. My guess is that this is a copy/pasted message and a whole bunch of subreddits are getting this notice.
I thought this was a particularly nasty new development, since up until now the excuse has been that we can’t let these Landed Gentry dictate the state of our subreddits, but now they’re explicitly saying that they also don’t care about how the users of a subreddit vote either.
Again, not a surprise. Totally awful, outrageous, and immoral.
But sadly, par for the course. The mods should allow a vote to move to the fediverse, and leave the sub permanently private in that case.
Or if reddit won’t give them the chance to vote, just do it anyways. Like the admins just do what they want, so turnabout is fair play, amirte?
If people want to move to the fediverse, they need to move to the fediverse, not wait for everyone else to move first.
Yes, but you’re preaching to the choir here. The number of people who are willing to take that initiative but haven’t yet is only getting smaller. So now people are thinking about how to help along the group who isn’t unwilling to move, just maybe not move alone.
Part of that is building the fediverse up, more communities, more activity, more of the stuff that made us want to go on Reddit beforehand. But the other part is seeing if there’s a good way to motivate the next group migration.
I dunno man. I just jumped over today. Bummed about the way things went but I’ve been in denial about what Reddit has become for a while. There are more coming.
If they do come it will be out of curiosity. If the communities are not built and active they won’t stay. So far the only active communities I’ve seen are the Fuck Reddit communities. The vast majority isn’t interested in that.
It’s just loud right now as it’s the hot topic while we watch the fire burn (and the fact a lot of us have just moved over.) It’ll die down and people will flow to other communities with the ebb and flow.
We just have to keep making communities and content here that doesn’t revolve around Reddit. I spun up a kbin instance and have been posting news articles I find interesting on my News magazine. Those are manually curated links that I go out and find. I also set up a bot to pull news articles and automatically post them to a different dedicated community on my instance.
Part of the issue with the fediverse is content discovery. You don’t know what you don’t know. Part of the issue is, to subscribe to content from another server you have to search the url or community slug for your instance to find it, pull it, and all you to subscribe to it. It’s slightly less of an issue on the “main” instances because some of the power users are likely going out and searching for new content to subscribe to from other servers.
Are you supposed to go to other instances to make promotion posts about your content on your server? Idk that feels bad and people generally don’t jive with self-promo/ads (maybe it’s more similar to when people would comment stuff like, “oh this belongs in r/ELI5 instead”)
Anyways just sharing some of my morning rambles. I have seen people recreating subreddits on kbin and Lemmy, which is a way to bring new users in to familiar content but it’ll be nice to see some original content and communities also form.
But I thought we were a community. Spez said we were a community. Ho wouldn’t lie would he?
Cue the Anakin and Clueless Padme meme
Ho lied.
“We’re a community” is the same lie employers tell when they say, “We’re a family.”
I’d be surprised if there was ever a time the admins cared about the opinions/rights of mods or users. It’s always been about freedom until freedom threatened their ‘bottom line’.
Nothing is immoral when you’re capitalist platform wanting to make money.
Fediverse is the only platform that will offer freedom.
Fixed that for you.