An internal FBI threat advisory obtained by The Intercept defines Anarchist Violent Extremists as individuals “who consider capitalism and centralized government to be unnecessary and oppressive,” and “oppose economic globalization; political, economic, and social hierarchies based on class, religion, race, gender, or private ownership of capital; and external forms of authority represented by centralized government, the military, and law enforcement.”
Guess I’m on another list because I agree with all of that.
And Semi-Hemi-Demigod is trying to explain to you that, while you’re of course right that none of those things are symptoms of violent extremism, a lot of them are aspects of peaceful anti-authoritarian political beliefs such as those of anarchism.
I would read this as "Of the types of violent extremists, the ‘Anarchist’ type are those who… ". As a really dumb metaphor, if I have a pokedex, I don’t need to restate that they’re all Pokémon in there each time.
Not arguing that the FBI hasn’t suppressed completely valid movements in the past, because that’s well-documented for anyone to see. I just think that if I was a professional writing a handbook in this situation, I wouldn’t go to the trouble of redefining the context each time either. Because of that, I’m not sure that this is demonstrative of their stance.
Guess I’m on another list because I agree with all of that.
Are they honestly okay with putting “Social hierarchies based on […] race or gender” in writing?
The result of none of that is the same as anarchy, violence, nor extremism
Anarchy has stood for those things since its inception.
Who taught you that it means violence and lawlessness? Maybe they have an agenda?
I don’t know what you’re trying to say.
I said the FBI definition of “violent anarchist extremists” doesn’t properly define violent, anarchist, or extremists.
And Semi-Hemi-Demigod is trying to explain to you that, while you’re of course right that none of those things are symptoms of violent extremism, a lot of them are aspects of peaceful anti-authoritarian political beliefs such as those of anarchism.
Thanks for the assist
No worries 🙂
But I never said it was about violence and lawlessness
I would read this as "Of the types of violent extremists, the ‘Anarchist’ type are those who… ". As a really dumb metaphor, if I have a pokedex, I don’t need to restate that they’re all Pokémon in there each time.
I’m not sure that your interpretation gels with the FBI’s historical behavior. The organization literally tried to get MLK Jr. to kill himself.
Not arguing that the FBI hasn’t suppressed completely valid movements in the past, because that’s well-documented for anyone to see. I just think that if I was a professional writing a handbook in this situation, I wouldn’t go to the trouble of redefining the context each time either. Because of that, I’m not sure that this is demonstrative of their stance.