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    Yea, Timmy. Wanna fight after school? Wait, you do? Well, I would, but my mommy said I can’t.

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      I’m old enough to remember that we had actual debates between opposing candidates, but I’m in my 40s and not interesting

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        Yep. I remember the McCain vs Obama debates. I remember thinking their policies were pretty similar, and either would probably govern decently enough. I wasn’t a Dem or Rep, though I had voted mostly blue thus far.

        But then McCain picked Palin as his running mate, and I saw the VP debates. And holy shit did that make the choice easy, and Red has just been getting more and more extreme ever since.

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    by debate he means he will childishly shout over anyone he’s on stage with constant bullshit and juvenile rhetoric - no thanks. having seen trump in debates I honestly question anyone silly enough to try, he’ll never ‘debate’, he just gish gallops bullshit until his minders come to change his diapers.

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    Trump doesn’t debate anyone ever. He shows up and steamrolls the other person with his version of reality.

    And when he’s done, he flips the table, shits on it, and then declares victory…

    …and his base fucking eats it up with a -smile.-

    It’s baffling.

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        But were they debates? Can we really call them that?

        I know that’s what the forum called for, but I saw zero debating.

        Jerry Springer episodes had more debating going on.

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          I mean, that’s a nice opinion and all, but yeah. Technically yes, those were debates. That one of the debaters was poorly prepared is another thing.

          In a professional car race, if one of the drivers decides to hit reverse se whole time, is it fair to tell the one that plays by the rules “oh no, you don’t deserve the winner title because that wasn’t even a race”?

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            If there were only two cars would it have been a race?

            It was called a race, people expected to see a race, but no race took place.

            It was not a race.

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              Yes. It would have been called a race.

              Let’s give you a better example, then. A boxing match.

              One of the boxers just runs around trying to touch the other contender’s butt.

              He gets disqualified.

              The other boxer wins the match.

              What the public (including you) thinks of it is irrelevant. The judges were there and ruled who won the match per the scenario presented.

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    Anywhere AND anyplace? Stable genius. Given his bouts with slurring and dementia I’d like to see him get shredded by Biden.

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      Nobody wants to see 2 old men ramble incoherently at each other. Right now trump is the more cognitively capable of the 2, unfortunately. Though it’s certainly close.

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    So this means he’s Definitely refusing to debate him. What a shit. Murica, you vote this guy in and I think I’m all out of sympathy.

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      Dude it’s not me, it’s them. There’s a weird division in this country and for some reason there are people on the other side.

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        Bro I’m a leftist and I’m voting for Trump this time. If you want to win, don’t run a genocider. Myself and other leftists have a few very hard and fast rules, and genocide is one of them. Id rather have J6 #2 than trail of tears #2

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          https://lemmy.world/post/12780782

          Trump is a “genocider” and he’ll expand upon the genocide already being committed, while cutting all attempts to provide aid to Gaza, closing our borders to refugees and torpedoing any chance of a free and fair elections again.

          If you vote trump because he’s not currently the president during this current iteration of Israel+Palestine violence, then you are a fucking moron. That’s a collective “you” by the way, no one in particular.

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            He might do that. But we all know that trump saying something has a very low correlation with him actually doing it. He ended the war in Afghanistan, a war which Biden spent 8 years overseeing and not ending. And I don’t think trump can personally gain from the genocide continuing, so I don’t see a reason he wouldn’t end this too. Trump has a history of peace, his rhetoric isn’t as bad as Bidens, what he actually says he will do isn’t as bad as what Biden says he will do, AND… he isn’t currently the guy doing it. I pretty much only care about this issue at this point, and I just don’t see trump actually being worse than Biden on it. Biden’s handlers care about maintaining the military industrial complex. Trump’s handlers care about scamming the government $1 million at a time. If the end result is Trump steals a billion dollars and attempts a coup again, that is a fantastic outcome for us.

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              He might do that.

              He might. He also has a history of enacting racist and anti-muslim policies to throw meat to his moronic base of chuds. He also has a history of backing Israel, such as backing them creating illegal settlements in the west bank. So I believe trump, and his republican ilk will jump at the chance to use our military and financial institutions to harm Palestinians, as the historically have for the last 60+ years.

              But we all know that trump saying something has a very low correlation with him actually doing it.

              All the more reason not to trust him as the president.

              He ended the war in Afghanistan, a war which Biden spent 8 years overseeing and not ending.

              No, he didn’t. He made the same commitment to end the war, after his presidency, that every president since Bush has made. Only Biden was willing to take the actual blame for pulling out of that quagmire.

              Trump has a history of peace

              No he doesn’t. He ordered a drone strike on an Iranian general in another sovereign country on a diplomatic mission. Mainly because he wanted to brag about killing “terrorists”, since the Obama admin got to take down Bin-Laden.

              I pretty much only care about this issue at this point…

              And yet you have selected the almost universally recognized, absofuckinglute worst possible person to end this peacefully.

              Please stop. Just stop. Trump has never made anything better, ever. Period. Full stop. Don’t vote for him.

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                Afaik, Biden could not possibly have gotten out of Afghanistan in 2-3 months without actual moves that were made by the trump admin.

                Idk how the drone strike issue lines up, but I mean, at least the ones trump did hit military personnel. Obama went after all of: an American citizen, a wedding, and a hospital. Trump could certainly be worse than Obama on that though.

                It’s not like I want to vote for trump. I’m just obviously going to pick the doofus con artist over the guy currently committing a genocide. I would vote for trump over Hitler, Stalin, and Pol Pot too, to be clear. Yeah, trump might just keep doing it. But he also might not. And we know Joe ain’t gonna do shit to end it.

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      Trump loving America is not the majority of America. It’s not even half. It’s just the “voting age” almost-halfz which is what, 30% of all Americans?

      The reason Trump won in 2016 is because many people who didn’t like Hilary didn’t vote. And even so, Hilary got 2 million more votes than Trump.

      Then Trump lost to Biden. If he was so popular, he would have won a second term.

      So, no. Please don’t think that the majority of Americans are deplorables.

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    This is the first time I’ve truly not cared at all about whether or not there is a presidential debate

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      Any debate with Trump in it is a farce. He just tries to interrupt, talk over, and talk louder than his opponent. It’s all part of his faux-macho “establish dominance” strategy, just like when he pulls people toward him when he shakes their hand to knock them off balance. Remember the Gorsuch handshake?

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      Yeah, I always try to watch the debates, always. I’m a big fun of the democratic process, and I always like to try and give the candidates a chance to make their case, even if I know I probably won’t vote for them. But you’re right, I really don’t give a crap about the debate. It’s just going to be a globally publicized shit show, nothing productive is going to come out of it, and it’s not going to change my mind. There’s nothing Trump can realistically say that will get me to vote for him, and I’d, very seriously, sooner have Vermin Supreme for president before Trump.

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      Its going to be the best bit… watching trump spew some insane bullshit then see him smacked down using his own track record. Delicious.

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    Invite that dumbass to a debate and spring a geography and US history test on him. It’ll be hilarious.