• kava@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    this isn’t working anymore. people are getting numb to the “boogeyman” technique

    dems have to offer something people want, otherwise the right is going to take over

    and i think it’s too late by now

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      8 months ago

      Boogymen aren’t real. This is not that. And the Left never had that. Right wing terrorism boogymen fund wars.

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        8 months ago

        whatever you wanna call it, it’s not going to work this year. look at the polls. hispanics & blacks are voting for Trump in larger numbers. 5/6 battleground states that Biden won last time he is losing

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          8 months ago

          I think it’s less that they’re voting for Trump more, and just that they’re voting for Biden less.

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            8 months ago

            it’s a bit of both. in 2016 around 24% of hispanics said they were gonna vote for trump. 2020 that number was 36%. in this election, we’re seeing around 48%

            the numbers for black people have also increased, although at lower rates.

            then you have a lot of disillusioned democrats who won’t vote for Trump - but also aren’t going to turn out for Biden

            the issue is that he won a lot of battleground states with small margins, so small changes will make or break him there. for example in michigan. the 100k or so people who voted “uncommitted” in the Democratic primary is enough to swing the state.

            it’s looking grim for democrats right now. i think their only chance is if they manage to get Trump in jail or he has a stroke or something. which are in the realm of possibility

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              Yeah, at this point I think that’s the big thing I’m looking at. Getting rid of Trump. I know who ever is next will also still be the right wing authoritarian the party wants, but they won’t have the cult following. They’re not a religious leader. It’s at least something.

              But either way, as a gay man, me and my boyfriend are thinking we might get out if the Republicans do win. He’s on his last semester of nursing school. I have an associates in accounting, which isn’t much, but I can hopefully still have some leverage with it.

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                8 months ago

                yeah it’s sad that the country has come to this. if it’s any consolation, i think a lot of the countries around the world are shifting to the right. it seems like we’re repeating the 1930s step by step.

                my advice is to go to south america. in the event of a nuclear war, i think Brazil/Argentina will be safest :P

                argentina’s also shifted far right with their new president, but the president of brazil is from the labor party

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      8 months ago

      a boogeyman is something fake used to scare people into doing what you want. trump is a real threat. the country got noticeably, objectively worse, our supreme court is now corrupt for decades to come, he defanged the epa and if he gets in again, goodby climate work, hello actually dictator. he’s directly said he will be one “for a day” lol. it’s not a boogeyman if the danger is real.

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        8 months ago

        It is a very real threat that also happens to be a very good thing for the dems. Liberal media coverage is almost entirely about trump and crazy right wingers. Their existence means that dems dont have to do anything to actually help Americans and can stick with the status quo for the next god knows how many more “most important elections of our lifetimes”. We cant just be okay with settling anymore.