In what way are Dutch and Danish taxpayers being forced to fund said palace? The point of sicaniv’s screenshot seems to me to be that western taxpayers are being given no choice but to fund a war they aren’t involved in, after 10–40 years of austerity and being told the state can’t afford basic services, suddenly there’s a bottomless well of cash for tanks.
What choice do Russians have in either paying for Putin’s palace or dying with outdated equipment?
Suffice it to say, both sides claim they have no money for public services yet suddenly can finance war. The whole war industry is a scam, this has been obvious for more than 100 years now.
I also dislike the military-industrial complex. But that seems to be a different point to the one you made at first. Making it seem as though Russia is at war so that Putin can build a palace doesn’t seem accurate.
Russia is not at war to glorify Putin. Although, his estimation does seem to be rising in the eyes of the global south because he is fighting the imperialists who have long oppressed them.
Again, the point you replied to seemed to be talking about indebting Dutch and Danish taxpayers to pay for a war they’re not part of. Russia is at war, so it would make sense that Russians will be taxed to pay for it. I agree that this is tragic. Much better for that money to be spent on public services.
But in response to your reply: in general, Russians have very little choice because Russia was forced into a corner by NATO. I’m not sure what you mean by outdated equipment. Outdated by whose standards?
But that seems to be a different point to the one you made at first. Making it seem as though Russia is at war so that Putin can build a palace doesn’t seem accurate.
That was not in any way the point I made. I merely called out Putin’s squandering of public funds (for his own personal interest) to contrast against western squandering of public funds.
Russia is not at war to glorify Putin.
It’s in Putin’s political benefit:
Although, his estimation does seem to be rising in the eyes of the global south
As you have described.
Again, the point you replied to seemed to be talking about indebting Dutch and Danish taxpayers to pay for a war they’re not part of. Russia is at war, so it would make sense that Russians will be taxed
Russia is only at war because Russia started a war. A war that the Russian people had no say - hell, they had no idea - in starting.
But in response to your reply: in general, Russians have very little choice because Russia was forced into a corner by NATO.
This is a false narrative. Russia did not have to start a war. There is no excuse here.
I’m not sure what you mean by outdated equipment. Outdated by whose standards?
Outdated by Russian standards. I think anyone would consider WW2 weapons and expired rations to be outdated.
redditors when they have to realize that the mighty ubermensch superior german engineering tanks get blown up by an atgm like literally every other tank
Erm, Putin made it law in the late 90s that 50% of the wealthiest Russian oligarch’s wealth would be under his control. It was their money, they kept the profits, but Putin directed their spending.
Now, Russian oligarchs invest in political enterprise all over the world, more than almost any other nation (excluding the USA, which is simply wealthier).
Please share your sources for both of these claims, especially the latter; I would be very surprised if Russian capitalists had more overseas investments than imperialist countries like Canada, the UK and France
houses are generally significantly less expensive than tanks, but in this particular case you’ll have to do the research yourself – feel free to share your findings so we can all be aware of how many parts per million of the annual Russian budget was spent on Putin’s house
Houses, sure. But we’re talking about a mansion the size of a small town where they threw out all the marble they’d already isntalled because it was the wrong colour.
Remind me again, how much did Putin’s palace cost?
In what way are Dutch and Danish taxpayers being forced to fund said palace? The point of sicaniv’s screenshot seems to me to be that western taxpayers are being given no choice but to fund a war they aren’t involved in, after 10–40 years of austerity and being told the state can’t afford basic services, suddenly there’s a bottomless well of cash for tanks.
What choice do Russians have in either paying for Putin’s palace or dying with outdated equipment?
Suffice it to say, both sides claim they have no money for public services yet suddenly can finance war. The whole war industry is a scam, this has been obvious for more than 100 years now.
I also dislike the military-industrial complex. But that seems to be a different point to the one you made at first. Making it seem as though Russia is at war so that Putin can build a palace doesn’t seem accurate.
Russia is not at war to glorify Putin. Although, his estimation does seem to be rising in the eyes of the global south because he is fighting the imperialists who have long oppressed them.
Again, the point you replied to seemed to be talking about indebting Dutch and Danish taxpayers to pay for a war they’re not part of. Russia is at war, so it would make sense that Russians will be taxed to pay for it. I agree that this is tragic. Much better for that money to be spent on public services.
But in response to your reply: in general, Russians have very little choice because Russia was forced into a corner by NATO. I’m not sure what you mean by outdated equipment. Outdated by whose standards?
That was not in any way the point I made. I merely called out Putin’s squandering of public funds (for his own personal interest) to contrast against western squandering of public funds.
It’s in Putin’s political benefit:
As you have described.
Russia is only at war because Russia started a war. A war that the Russian people had no say - hell, they had no idea - in starting.
This is a false narrative. Russia did not have to start a war. There is no excuse here.
Outdated by Russian standards. I think anyone would consider WW2 weapons and expired rations to be outdated.
I always forget history started in February 2022
Those outdated weapons can sure turn state-of-the-art NATO weapons into scrap metal. (See pic above).
redditors when they have to realize that the mighty ubermensch superior german engineering tanks get blown up by an atgm like literally every other tank
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Wasn’t it the Nazis who hoarded public wealth for their own benefit?
Something which has never been known to happen in the modern west, specifically in the United States or Ukraine. Nope, not ever.
don’t you know that Ukraine is actually a libsoc utopia?
That would certainly explain all the sex trafficking
Remind me again why were Russians forced to adopt a system were business elites could use their capital to exert political power.
That wasn’t public money.
Erm, Putin made it law in the late 90s that 50% of the wealthiest Russian oligarch’s wealth would be under his control. It was their money, they kept the profits, but Putin directed their spending.
Now, Russian oligarchs invest in political enterprise all over the world, more than almost any other nation (excluding the USA, which is simply wealthier).
Please share your sources for both of these claims, especially the latter; I would be very surprised if Russian capitalists had more overseas investments than imperialist countries like Canada, the UK and France
Which law was that? The one you made up or the one from up your ass?
houses are generally significantly less expensive than tanks, but in this particular case you’ll have to do the research yourself – feel free to share your findings so we can all be aware of how many parts per million of the annual Russian budget was spent on Putin’s house
Houses, sure. But we’re talking about a mansion the size of a small town where they threw out all the marble they’d already isntalled because it was the wrong colour.
Sounds like some Radio Free Europe shit
I don’t even get your reference.
What you’re saying sounds like pure shit.
Radio free europe is indeed pure shit. It’s a propaganda outlet of usa with the goal of subjugating all europeans
That awkward moment when fascists realize that we tankies are more pro-European than they are
What is your source for that claim? That sounds rather cartoonish
source: www.democracyfreedomtotallynotciafunded.com
damn, that looks pretty reliable 😬
I found another source:
www.libraryinformationendowment.org/how_putin_increases_his_wealth/
Have you heard of Alexei Navalny?
The Nazi who called Muslims cockroaches? Yeah I’ve heard of him.
He’s the Juan Guaido of Russia.
Yes, but actually Jaun Guaido is the Jaun Guaido of Russia.
I have it on good authority that Juan Guaido has just been elected Tsar of Russia.
Nazivalny?
I think you forgot the part where Putin twirled his moustache and laughed manically while watching.
Should I?
Someone ought to find out who put this Putin guy in charge in the first place and give him a spanking 😡