The instance seems to be mostly right wing trolls. I know defederating is unpopular but I don’t think much is to be lost in this case and it can save the mods some headaches.
Edit: the response on exploding-heads.com to my reporting of transphobia. Courtesy of the “second in command”
What is the argument here?
I’m making the point that what someone sees as "harmful "or “misinformation” varies from person to person due to differing beliefs. And that to defederate over it is to shut down conversation, and declare a single position and prevent anyone else from speaking or discussing it.
It spun into a trans debate and I really don’t care to have one @.@
Sounds reasonable.
From my experience, Americans tend to struggle with that whole “open discussion” thing.
Now you are mixing words. “Open discussion” “misinformation” and “harmful” play very differently in this discussion.
No one, throughout this thread, the one on beehaw, or anyone discussing EH or on EH has expressed an interest in turning down Open Discussion, in fact it’s been more than encouraged.
Misinformation, however, does not vary from person to person. There are things that are objectively true and objectively untrue. Someone coming up with some other “truth” does not make it also true, it makes it misinformation if they start spreading it. There can be multiple truths or things that have no truth but are beliefs, but if something is false but is being spread while called a truth it is Misinformation. That doesn’t mean if Person A is talking about X and Person B is talking about Y that they both get to call the other person’s thing misinformation just because they aren’t talking about the same thing.
And misinformation is not always going to be harmful. Sometimes it will be silly (April fool’s day news casts) and sometimes it will be stupid, but once it crosses that line into harmful is when it needs to be controlled.
And yes, multiple people might have different definitions of harmful. But this is where we need to take the community’s agreement into account. You know all of those Terms of Service you always just check the box without reading? You agree to behave certain ways with those. If website is a company or a restaurant finds that you are not behaving in a way that you agreed to by joining, they can decide you no longer belong. This is what many of the comments in this thread were talking about - that sh.itjust.works and kbin.social both have bigotry listed as disagreeable terms that they deem as harmful to their communities.
So it not about having an issue with open discussion, is it?
@goat
@Otome-chan@kbin.social
It has definitely not been encouraged on beehaw.
Misinformation also blurs the lines when it comes to topics of identity.