I was in the Army and I hated most aspects of it. But one thing I really liked was the uniform. Just waking up and putting on the BDUs and not having to think about what to wear was great. Also, it eliminates comparison between others. You don’t have to worry if you’re under-dressed or over-dressed cause you are wearing the same thing as everyone else.

It worked in Star Trek, right? Well, unless you were a redshirt.

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    Luckily, you can just pick your uniform and wear it daily. It’s pretty much what I did. For everyday wear I have like 3 different pants, 3 different sweaters and a bunch of T-Shirts that go with them. So while I personally am basically in uniform daily (and many people wear identical or near identical clothes every day) I’m strictly against society encouraging uniforms in any way shape or form.

    For many people wearing a uniform is obligatory at their work (retail and gastronomy workers, construction and maintenance workers, facility staff at larger buildings or events, Any kind of service person that will be seen by the public (e.g bus drivers, cleaners,…). And that is even without counting people who have to follow a strict dress code at work to the point where it might as well be a uniform (white collar office work, e.g).
    So overall I dare say a majority of people actually wear uniforms in their professional lives. And even if you aren’t as liberal with your interpretation of “uniform” as I was in the paragraph above (where I considered a hard hat and a high vis vest as a uniform), it is still a significant portion of the population wearing uniforms regardless.

    And in a professional context I can see a point to uniforms: They remove individuality and emphasize the belonging to a larger group/organization. This can be helpful in situations where cohesion (e.g construction work, policing, school uniforms etc…) or uniformity of standards (gastronomy, public services) are more important than individual competence/style.

    However, in a private context, I object to any kind of uniforms being worn or even worse, any kind of societal encouragement (which always turns into pressure) to wear uniforms. Uniforms are by their nature a limitation on your most basic form of freedom of expression. History has shown that any society that encourages uniformity over individuality in a private context will sooner or later enforce not just clothing standards but other behavioral standards too, usually to the detriment of marginalized groups. (What I’m saying is, it is a short step from “You should wear this.” to “You shouldn’t wear this.” and from there to “You should(n’t) do this” and “You can’t do this.”)

    There is rather to many societal norms around what is “correct” or “appropriate” clothing already and I think your phantasy about uniforms comes partially from that pressure. I’d rather a society where no one gives a fuck what you wear, than one that “encourages” dress codes. And uniforms are IMHO a step in the wrong direction.

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      Exactly. There are times uniforms and dress codes are necessary, but they ansolutely shouldn’t be universal.

      There’s nothing stopping OP from just picking a style and going with it - I do. The majority of my outfits follow the simple formula of cardigan/jacket and complimentary t-shirt, Jeans, trainers, and whatever underwear is in the top of the drawer. It works for the majority of contexts, and I can always tweak it to be smarter or more casual.

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      When I had to go into an office for work I had three pairs of pants, exactly the same, and five collared shirts of different colors, a pair of shoes and a belt all dedicated to only being worn for work. Even kept then in a specific place in my closet segregated from non-work clothes. Getting dressed was fast and easy

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      Beware of all enterprises that require new clothes, and not rather a new wearer of clothes. -Henry David Thoreau


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    Now this is a quality unpopular opinion post. You have somehow managed to succeed where all others fail.

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    I had to wear black clothing at my last job, doing that everyday for a decade was the most depressing shit ever.

    Fuck uniforms, let me express myself. It’s crazy to see people be what society wants them to be, but not me.

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    As long as I choose the uniform.
    Monday: Cheerleader.
    Tuesday: Policeman.
    Wednesday: Astronaut.
    Thursday: Catholic School Girl.
    Friday: Priest.
    Saturday: Hooters Waitress.
    Sunday: NFL Linebacker.

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    I have duplicates of the same clothes and wear the same thing daily. Nobody is forcing you to choose what to wear, lol.

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    I hate uniforms because I hate the concept of uniformity, especially in a social setting where uniformity is achieved through coercion or force. If you let them take your individuality, they’ve already won over half the battle.

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    People already do wear uniforms in a way. Have you ever been to a school or university. Any gathering of young people. Heck, go to a senior center and many of the clothes the old folks are wearing are all the same. I’m thinking high waisted polyester pants my great grandad used to wear lol.

    And that damn Lulu Lemon yoga pants craze everyone just had to have.

    Humans feel a deep desire to fit in and conform to their cultural norms. I’ve also seen studies where people who wear new clothes are seen as more intelligent, more competent, more hard working, more beautiful, etc compared to people who wear old clothes.

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    Upvote for unpopularity. I like the idea of not having to think about what to wear, but I don’t really care about the under-dressed/over-dressed part. I’m in a work place that went from a professional dress code to a business-casual dress code and holy shit was that great, just not having to care about what I was wearing, other than no ripped jeans or whatever, it’s just so nice. I sit at a desk all day, so nobody really ever sees what I’m wearing all day anyways, so whatever. Also:

    1. Just getting people to wear a fucking mask during a global pandemic was enough for some people to want to go to civil war, good luck telling them what shirt and pants to wear (or that they should wear any in the first place),
    2. I think even if uniforms were instituted, you’d still have members of society who would have to have something else. Politicians and/or military would get something else, just because. Then maybe you’d get other divisions getting added in, bosses at workplaces, religious folks, medical personnel, whatever, people will do anything to differentiate themselves from others, even if you try to start them out the same.

    I feel like even in Star Trek, the different uniformed groups still probably talk shit about each other. Red shirts are obviously the big joke about being expendable, but then they probably still have informal green vs blue social groups popping up, the different departments are still going to be getting catty with each other over petty differences, even hundreds of years in the future. Then add in all these random fucking aliens from all over with way different standards, social taboos, and methods of communication, you’ll have alot of pissed off humans onboard starships hating almost everyone else they work with.

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    Uniformity over individualism sounds so authoritarian and dystopian.

    No one prevents you to buy the same 14 shirts and pants and wear them. No need to ever decide what to wear. You have the power to solve this by yourself.

    I also don’t think for example school uniforms are a good thing, as kids will find worse things to bully someone than their clothes. I got bullied and clothes hurt less, than something really hurting my self esteem, so no school uniform would’ve saved me there. But at least I could wear what I wanted instead of being forced to wear boring pants and shirts. Also often uniform can be a financial burden for poorer families if it’s not paid by the school. Now, at work, I’m glad I don’t need to iron a suit every day.

    So kudos for posting a (to me) unpopular opinion.

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    Fuck uniforms. I get your point but no one tells me what to wear. That sets my oppositional disorder off like nothing else, I can watch myself get riled up in real time at the mere thought, it’s almost funny.
    (good post though I must admint)

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      Clothing companies are telling you what to wear if you think about it. The illusion of choice is going to the mall, not knowing that most of your money spent is going to Cadillac Fairview.