This has not at all been my experience. Most antifa groups are primarily anarchist or communist, which have never opposed arming people. Unless shit has been flooded by liberals in the last couple of years, I have no idea where this is coming from.
Edit: are these people actually doing stuff, or are these online circle jerks? Because the people who’ve been doing stuff since the 80’s are primarily anarchists. If this is just online circle jerks, yeah, sounds like liberals.
In Seattle, a bunch of liberals started a group formed roughly on anarchist ideas to resist Trump. They got thousands of people together and basically did nothing. Anarchists got together a few dozen people and actually got shit done. I don’t consider things like the Neighborhood Action Council or whatever the fuck it was called “antifascist” no matter what they may claim. If you are risking your lives in the streets, you know why it makes sense to be armed against these fucks. If your “antifascism” is voting, you’re fucked.
The number of us who matched during the BLM movements armed where a lot less than those who were on the anti-blm side…and it was fucked up because the side we were there to protest with felt we were in the wrong. This is really well documented from all the footage online. The number of armed anti-blm vs the BLM groups were completely lopsided.
Alright, yeah, that’s fair. I still think the “you’re antifa thus you’re anti-2a” is fucking stupid and obviously wrong.
There’s a much more nuanced conversation that needs to happen on the left about guns. I absolutely hate liberals for making that impossible. They will continue to help fascists kill us because, even after everything, liberals still hate leftists more than fascists.
This has not at all been my experience. Most antifa groups are primarily anarchist or communist, which have never opposed arming people. Unless shit has been flooded by liberals in the last couple of years, I have no idea where this is coming from.
Edit: are these people actually doing stuff, or are these online circle jerks? Because the people who’ve been doing stuff since the 80’s are primarily anarchists. If this is just online circle jerks, yeah, sounds like liberals.
In Seattle, a bunch of liberals started a group formed roughly on anarchist ideas to resist Trump. They got thousands of people together and basically did nothing. Anarchists got together a few dozen people and actually got shit done. I don’t consider things like the Neighborhood Action Council or whatever the fuck it was called “antifascist” no matter what they may claim. If you are risking your lives in the streets, you know why it makes sense to be armed against these fucks. If your “antifascism” is voting, you’re fucked.
The number of us who matched during the BLM movements armed where a lot less than those who were on the anti-blm side…and it was fucked up because the side we were there to protest with felt we were in the wrong. This is really well documented from all the footage online. The number of armed anti-blm vs the BLM groups were completely lopsided.
Alright, yeah, that’s fair. I still think the “you’re antifa thus you’re anti-2a” is fucking stupid and obviously wrong.
There’s a much more nuanced conversation that needs to happen on the left about guns. I absolutely hate liberals for making that impossible. They will continue to help fascists kill us because, even after everything, liberals still hate leftists more than fascists.
You’re preaching to the choir. Hell you can see how the reaction is here.
But I’ll try and continue to convert as many as I can. An armed minority is harder to oppress.