• Quacksalber@sh.itjust.works
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    9 months ago

    If people supporting the Russian occupation don’t want to get detained by Ukraine, they can leave for Russia before Ukraine frees that territory.

    Like the two brothers this article is about.

    Also, what would you describe people as that help an occupier annex your territory and build up the occupiers control over it, if not collaborateurs?

    If they truly wanted to only help their people, they can argue that in court. Because as a country striving to become a fully fledged democracy, they will get a chance to defend themselves in Ukraine, as opposed to getting thrown out of windows, like in Russia.

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      9 months ago

      I kind of have the same sentiment, but I have reservations about what is likely a very small fraction of them.

      Mostly the thought of the doctors who are entwined with government, because I’m sure some doctors just want to help. Other than that, I’m sure there’s at least one individual who did it as a way to get or maintain a job so they can make rent and survive, but that just might be me projecting my American fear of poverty onto a situation that doesn’t apply.

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        9 months ago

        Are doctors ever considered collaborateurs? If they rat out soldiers, sure, but I haven’t heard Ukraine trying doctors for doing their job. If anything, they are lauded for continuing their job, like the operators at Chernobyl were, when they worked under Russian occupation.

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          9 months ago

          I would hope not, though I know we’re working off of incomplete information since we’re not on the ground/in their shoes. It’s certainly an appropriate fear to have, but it also cannot and should not stop the reversal of the annexation.

          I’m of the mind of asking the Ukrainian government for leniency or due process once the dust settles and the rightful government takes back Crimea.

          The other guy… It seems like he is making whatever excuse to suck off Putin that he can 🤣