I got the Apple Vision Pro. It’s awesome, but to be honest, it doesn’t do much, yet. It’s amazing hardware and software, but there are few built-in apps. It’ll grow and expand, but there’s just not a lot you can do with it yet.
There are two built-in experiences to sell you on how much potential it has to sell you on how incredible this thing can / will be. They both involve dinosaurs.
In one, a large dino comes into the room. It’s very impressive. In the other, you’re fully immersed in a scene of dinos and you can look around at all the scenery surrounding you. And this got me thinking…
What if I was a Young Earth Creationist who bought this? You know, those dummies who take the bible literally and think the earth is 5-6000 years old. The ones who think either fossils are a test of your faith by god or dinos roamed the earth with humans. How would these make such a person feel?
Personally, my first dream job, as a child, was to be an archaeologist, digging up dinos, so I loved both experiences. But if I thought this was all a lie from Satan, how let down might I feel when those are the best parts of my new, expensive toy?
This was my first thought when I awoke this morning. I’m typing it right after I woke so I don’t forget, such as we forget the details of dreams. Apologies for typos. I’m not proofreading it. I’m grabbing some caffeine and getting my day going. I just wanted to capture this silly, ironic idea. Btw, the AVP is still truly awesome and I don’t regret the purchase.
The title made me think I was about to read a young earth creationist‘s opinion on the Apple Vision Pro
Same, braced myself for insanity and everything
I was so excited
Same …and now I’m disappointed.
They’ll probably call it science fiction and move on. Why would a VR scene be any more real or thought provoking than playing resident evil?
There are actually… or at least were actually people that refused to use Apple products…
…because the Apple With A Bite Out Of It logo signifies functionally the mark of the beast, as it represents being willing branded by the symbol of the forbidden fruit that eve took a bite out of and doomed humanity for the sake of knowledge to be able to challenge god with.
I dont personally know people like that, but i have absolutely met people who, if you put a vr helmet on them and loaded up say the most recent DOOM game, they would be so shocked and horrified they would actually think the device was a cursed unholy contraption that is an /actual/ portal to hell.
The heavy emphasis on over the top imagery and violence in early shooters is a lot more understandable when you realize the main market demo was basically nerdy white kids rebelling from their very much more normalized extremist christian worldviews in the 90s.
So this is totally random and unsolicited, but I’ve seen you around some of the communities I’m in and I noticed you sometimes use slashes to emphasize words (e.g. /actual/). Maybe that’s a personal preference, but just in case, I thought I’d let you know that Lemmy supports Markdown formatting, so you can italicize words by wrapping them in asterisks. For example, *actual* becomes actual
Aha, youre not the first person to point this out to me, though you are by far the most polite and least rude.
I know how to do markdowns in lemmy.
I just stylistically like using / encapsulation as a form of emphasis, usually to indicate a tone shift to a more serious and louder tone if you were reading this in your head or aloud.
Ive found that italics and bold and
strikethroughall have different sets of contextual uses that usually evoke slightly different interpretations from most readers, so i kind of just made up my own thing.Italics usually convey either a tone shift down to a softer or near whisper, which can be used for ironic inflexion effect, or to just actually denote an actual whisper, or i often also use it if im writing basically a monologue or dialogue and then want to indicate that some kind of action happens.
Bold text ive found doesnt usually actually imply seriousness or even loudness to most people, but instead actually something more like a boastful and prideful tone.
I also use it in more serious discussions to focus on key phrases, figures or words that are pivotal to either my argument or the argument of another.
And then of course theres ALL CAPS which usually denotes basically a tone of quite loud, quite agitated, anger, when used sparringly, … or basically that youre either insane, or very old and cant read small caps well, if its used not sparringly.
We could speculate all day about what these religious fucking idiots think about stuff. But why?
It was just a fun thought. I used the dino immersives to show my partner what the AVP could do to impress her with the experience. And I thought it was funny that some people might be all-in and then be let down by a contradiction.
A young-earth-creationist who was a friend (we were friends before I found out and this was >20y ago when things were less contentious) took me to a talk about “The Truth About Dinosaurs.” The speaker said they didn’t exist or were dragons in the bible and walked with people. I was gonna attack him in a one-on-one debate during QA. Somehow, we started talking about how we both loved Macs and I decided it wasn’t worth it; he was a nice guy and I wasn’t gonna change his mind and this was one-on-one, no one else would be swayed. What if he got an AVP and the “lie” was the most impressive demo?
It was a shower thought that happened outside the shower. I thought it was interesting.
TBH it sounds more like you are getting a little smug high off of a hypothetical situation with what would seem to be a caricature of a less educated, easily gulled person. Young Earthers can also enjoy Jurassic Park.
I lived with a YEC (didn’t know it when we moved in). He was one of the brightest people I’ve ever met, which made it extremely surprising when I learned his views. I wouldn’t share a home with someone I didn’t respect.
I think YECs can be well educated and still live in the dark. You might be projecting.
The ones who think either fossils are a test of your faith by god or dinos roamed the earth with humans.
FWIW, the vast majority of YECs fall into the latter category because, while the timeline of dinosaurs is explicitly contradicted by their interpretation of the Bible, the existence of dinosaurs isn’t. Remember the guy who had that famous debate with Bill Nye? The venue for that debate was a “Creation Museum” featuring life-size animatronic dinosaurs living with Adam and Eve in the garden of Eden. It’s the same organization that spent ~$100 million to build a 500-foot-long replica of Noah’s Ark in Kentucky, featuring dinosaurs in pens aboard the Ark (“Don’t worry guys, Noah probably took baby sauropods so there’s plenty of room for them on board”).
Creationist organizations lean hard into dinosaurs as an outreach tool because everybody agrees they’re awesome. They’d probably wax poetic about how amazing these creatures of God’s creation were, lament that the dinos we’re seeing in AR are a pale imitation of the dinos our Biblical ancestors saw in real life, and then condescendingly rant about how “secular science” is trying to drive a wedge between mankind and Biblical truth with its assumptions about “millions of years.”
It is hard to think it will get any support by anything, because its just restricting them to be a only apple product, where with any other VR headset you can use Steams VR Games or other compatible ones
it will run Mac-compatible Steam games
Players can access more games from the Mac App Store and apps like Steam using Mac Virtual Display — including popular titles like Lies of P and Baldur’s Gate 3 — and enjoy smooth and responsive gameplay with Game Mode enabled on Mac.
[emphasis mine]
now, what that will be like at launch and how that will evolve over time is something we won’t know until we actually see it in practice.
But that means that you have to connect a compatible (=recent) MacBook in order to have the feature enabled. The marketing people at Apple carefully chose their words in order to let people believe that the headset can run Mac apps
So literally like any other VR headset, but for less money. For 3.5k you can buy a great pc AND a vr headset.
the Vision Pro is a PC and VR headset. well, a Mac inside a VR headset.
it’s a standalone device, not an accessory like other VR headsets.
Wow a pc but for 1 hour or be plugged in like any other macbook. So its a accessory like a macbook to the wall socket ;D
It’s an iPad inside a VR headset that can show a remote desktop (single monitor) from a Mac automagically without too much friction if the user is logged in with the same apple id. Cool but not $3500 cool, remote desktop in VR can be done with 10-15x less money
M2 (MacBook) with iPad apps
The iPad pro is already with the M2 chip, no?
If you watch some reviews, there’s nothing else like it on the consumer market. It really does look like Apple have made a generational leap forwards with this thing.
But I’m not buying it. I’ll buy one of the inevitable competitors, after a generation or three, because I also have no interest in joining the Apple ecosystem. I like having control over my devices too much for that.
Same for the reason, i dont say its not innovative combining vr and ar, but the closed ecosystem will kill it in the end.
the closed ecosystem will kill it in the end.
People have said this about every Apple product. They continue to thrive.
We are in a very specific bubble here on Lemmy. And in the Lemmy bubble, yeah, Apple products will never be the most popular.
But the average consumer could not possibly care less about “closed ecosystems.” They want a device that works smoothly and looks nice.
Thrive? The only thing i see is an cash grabs from big corporations.
Thrive? The only thing i see is a cash grabs from big corporations.
Maybe you missed Apple going from a nearly-defunct company in the 90s to one of the most valuable companies in the world, with a market cap in the trillions and nearly a quarter of the global smartphone market share.
While that is certainly the result of cash grabbing, I think it’s also fair to describe it with the word “thrive.”
Oh no, in order to play Mac games on the headset (on a simulated flat screen) you need to connect a compatible Mac with enough horsepower to run a game in 4k. So it’s 3.5k for the headset and another 2k for the “gaming” Mac
