I tell my trans and PoC friends as often as I can (without being obnoxious), now is the time. Arm yourself, get a gun or two (a long one and a short one), learn how to use them. Start networking with like-minded people in your community. Get some basic first aid training (medics really just need to know how to stabilize someone). The police will not protect us, that much has been shown; they would sooner club an old man to the ground than render aid to someone upsetting the status quo. When this country begins to fracture and fall apart, ourselves and our communities are the only things that can truly protect us.
If you want gun control, the best thing you can do is encourage marginalized communities to get lots of guns. That has always driven gun reform in the past.
I almost mentioned the Mulford Act.
Sounds like a win/win tbh, we protect ourselves or we get stronger gun laws (to protect everyone).
Those gun laws are never enforced fairly and are just a thin legal veil to justify racism and oppression of minorities. If you cared about PoC, you wouldn’t support gun control at all.
This whole debate reeks of racist white coffee-drinking liberal. 🤦 And if saying that sounds racist to you, remember what was said about the white moderate back in the 60’s.
Your opinion has been noted, I stand by my first statement.
Yeah, scratch a liberal and a pro-establishment bootlicker bleeds. 🤦
why do you try telling people what they care about ?
Why do you ask stupid, loaded questions?
Why are you arguing with me in bad faith?
Why are you wasting your Saturday arguing with me at all?
Are you arguing in good faith?
Wow. lol. Read my nick, I’m a different guy
No, I was asking you, but your response here tells us clearly that no, you’re not here in good faith and you’re not going to waste any more of my time. Go outside
Better to do nothing, so we can continue living in a world where minorities aren’t armed, and where racism and oppression don’t happen, right?
America has a mass shooting problem. Gun control sure seems to be an effective way to stop children from being killed in schools, and caring about children being safe doesn’t mean I don’t care about PoC.
The whole point was that A) minorities should arm themselves, which you clearly agree with and B) that IF conservatives are scared of an armed minority population and create gun control laws (which we’re all acknowledging would be intended to harm minorities), there would still be a positive effect in that children would be safer.
Excuse me sir, madam, or Mx,
I happen to like my coffee with soy milk in it, and that shouldn’t be an insult.
like the bojack horseman episode where women start arming themselves and the govt puts on even stricter gun control. seems insane right? well it actually happened when the black panther party started arming themselves
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Tazer, pepper spray would be my recommendation.
I recommend against relying on taser guns. If the attacker is wearing thick or baggy clothes, or any kind of body armor, the probes won’t connect with the skin and the taser will become useless. Even with a good connection, some people just won’t be affected by the shock.
I don’t trust myself with a gun, otherwise I’d get one.
This is a totally fair position. The medical training could still help, especially if you’re going to protests and things. There’s plenty of ways to be useful that don’t require being armed.
Dynamite is also an option
Same, I’d just use it to kill myself.
I’m OK BTW, but do have depression. I don’t think it’s worth the risk.
100% the same feeling. Give me a gun on the wrong day and you’re lucky it’s just me.
Get a chainsaw?
its sad you even have to think about that.
Respect to the SRA and Redneck Revolt.
I want trans, gay, atheists to be able to protect their Marijuana with guns.
Be the change you want to see in the world.
I’m pretty sure that’s the default political opinion in my state lol
Username checks out.
Fair but folks may be surprised that my state is Ohio. Round here urban or rural folks are high as shit, armed to the teeth, and generally fine with gay folks
That is beautiful. I definitely need that sticker and/or T-shirt.
Hell yeah!
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Any community that lives in mortal danger should own and carry guns in This Great Nation™. When my friend transitioned, I pleaded for her to get a purse-gun—California conceal-carry laws be damned. She got some tiny Glock .22 or 9mm. Made me feel better at night that’s for sure, especially where she lives. Edit: Where she lives isn’t the hood… It’s red/purple conservative that’s very behind the times.
I used to sell guns at a major gun store, but I’m also not a traditional gun salesman, as I’m super liberal.
We had a trans woman come in to buy a gun, and a bunch of the other guys at the gun counter were snickering at her.
I went up to her and talked to her about guns, where she could get training, etc. She was a former marine who had been discharged when she transitioned and was really cool. She found out that I was a trustee of a church that was super progressive and that we hosted the annual transgender day of remembrance, and she and I both had a great experience.
Turned out she’d been shunned by her church, and she was super excited to learn that there were prone who shared her faith and hobbies that weren’t bigots, and we both had a great time.
She ended up telling others about her experience, and I ended up becoming the regional gun sales guy for the transgender community, and that kinda spread into the queer community in general.
The coolest part though was how it affected the other sales guys. When she first arrived, they said they were dirty I had to deal with the freak. Then when they realized I was fine with it they’d joke about “Chilie’s new girlfriend” any time a trans person would come in.
But sometimes I’d be busy with another customer, and another salesman would end up helping them. Eventually, some of them became more open and realized that people are people.
I’d say of the 30 gun line guys, 10-12 changed his they treated queer customers throughout my time there, and a few were fine before. When I moved on, probably 3/4 were fine with it.
While those numbers aren’t amazing overall, it was a huge improvement from the 10% early on. I don’t think I’d go back to gun sales. I have a career job now and make more than triple the money with great benefits and predictable hours. But I like to think that my time behind the counter made the gun-buying experience better for customers of all kinds at that particular mega-store.
I want a bunch of new gun restrictions, but I’m not against gun ownership. I want required training, required gun safes, background checks, and extra strict laws around higher magazine and fire rate weapons. So while most people would describe me as “anti gun”, (I think it’s just common sense), I totally support responsible gun ownership especially if you’re in a marginalized group that is legitimately in danger.
Perhaps the gun nuts know they wouldn’t qualify for most common sense restrictions.
Or they’re concerned that the restrictions will be tailored against them on a political basis.
I think better checks is must have. I live in a dark blue state and, my uncle (who is a diagnosed schizophrenic to the point where he’s not allowed to have a job because he can’t tell what is real versus what the voices in his head is telling him) is able to walk a few miles down the road to the gun shop walk in and be out with any gun of his choosing in roughly 30-40 minutes, and he has done so on more than one occasion.
What’s even more obnoxious is the gun shop owner who we know as a family friend, finds it funny. I find it fucking scary.
I’m kinda like you, but I believe it should be tiered. Kinda like how someone with a normal driver’s license can’t (or at least, isn’t supposed to) drive a big rig. If you want a belt-fed machine gun then you gotta get the license that lets you own a belt-fed machine gun, but the requirements are gonna be a lot heavier than the license that lets you own a typical break-action double-barrel shotgun.
I also think there need to be legal requirements for storage, a legal definition for what constitutes a gun box/safe (because many containers advertised for “gun storage” are extremely flimsy), and automatic charges against the gun owner in the event their firearm is used in a crime. It’s your job to make sure your kid doesn’t get your gun and shoot a school. If it happens, your ass is on the line and you’d better have a really good excuse, like your kid knocked you out, tied you up, got a blowtorch and cut through your safe.
Why not just restrict magazines and call it a day? Because my thought is that proper gun control can allow the enthusiasts still have fun with their brownings, AKs and tommyguns while still ensuring the weapons don’t fall into the wrong hands. I’m certain it’s possible to walk that line, I’ve heard Finland already has a similar system in place, where you have to be a registered collector or museum to own anything other than a basic hunting rifle (which, iirc, requires a license to begin with), yet it seems like Finland doesn’t have anywhere near the same problems as the US.
Many countries with gun control do have a tiered system. There are normally still some guns that are totally prohibited, but there are normally distinctions between hunting rifles and handguns and semi autos.
I’m a Canadian and recently got me (non-restricted) permit. Basically let’s me have a certain variety of long-guns, no handguns, automatic, etc.
There was a required course on safe gun ownership and usage I had to take in order to get a signed paper necessary to apply for the permit (actually getting the permit has some other paperwork, criminal/mental-health check etc to fully qualify). Nothing onerous, it was done on a Saturday.
If I wanted a restricted firearm, that’s an additional and somewhat more in-depth course and check.
There are various legal stipulations for when I buy a firearm, including requirements for safe-storage/transport, whether they can be used. We don’t have carry laws. If I’m not at a range/show/etc, out hunting, or getting the firearm serviced I shouldn’t have it on me. I can’t load it until I’m on the range or at the hunting/target area. It can’t be discharged within city limits except at a range, etc.
This has all seemed pretty reasonable to me, and US style carry-culture where some dude at a Walmart night be carrying a loaded firearm frankly freaks me out, but I fully support the idea of responsible gun ownership for the purpose of target shooting, collection, or hunting.
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Free shotgun, cool.
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