If there isn’t a state, then what happens when the capitalists attack? Who’s gonna organize a defense? You think everyone’s just going to pick up guns and magically form an invincible anarcho-army?
I mean anarchists are able to organize resistance though I think we mostly agree here in that we are both ML or ML adjacent. Like I wrote, communists want to smash the capitalist state that oppresses the working class, while building a new one that serves to oppress the capitalist class which in the end leads to a classless society where the state does not have a purpose anymore.
Yes, but that will take time. Without a state, the USSR and China could never have done what they did. A loose net of communes just wouldn’t work when they were under constant western pressure and sabotage. No offense, but the only “resistance” anarchists have ever put on was a few angry marches and some molotovs. It was still the evil tankie statist army that crushed fascism in WW2.
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And I thought what I wrote was the gist of it, though I am open to hearing your interpretation.
What you wrote earlier was an accurate summary, they just misread (I hope).
I misread indeed, sorry. I’m such an idiot!
Don’t be too hard on yourself. The thread is full of such a variety of toxic takes that it’s understandable for your eyes to glaze over a little.
If there isn’t a state, then what happens when the capitalists attack? Who’s gonna organize a defense? You think everyone’s just going to pick up guns and magically form an invincible anarcho-army?
I mean anarchists are able to organize resistance though I think we mostly agree here in that we are both ML or ML adjacent. Like I wrote, communists want to smash the capitalist state that oppresses the working class, while building a new one that serves to oppress the capitalist class which in the end leads to a classless society where the state does not have a purpose anymore.
Yes, but that will take time. Without a state, the USSR and China could never have done what they did. A loose net of communes just wouldn’t work when they were under constant western pressure and sabotage. No offense, but the only “resistance” anarchists have ever put on was a few angry marches and some molotovs. It was still the evil tankie statist army that crushed fascism in WW2.
Yes, I don’t think we are disagreeing here, though the anarchists did alright in the Spanish civil war.
I think you’re right, lol. I have no idea what we were arguing over now.