Okay so it’s actually really easy for you to look up how many billions of dollars we have given to Israel, but if you really want to insist that they are financially and politically independent in their ethnic cleansing of Palestinians, then sure, have it your way
I mean you say that, yet the Palestinians would probably say it’s the other way around and it is in fact Israel who is in control of the West. Hamas shouldn’t have 9/11nd the Israeli if they didn’t want to get cleansed. The blood of the women and children they hide behind is on their hands as far as I’m concerned.
All of Israel is stolen land. It’s not fair to equate violence when one group is occupied and one is the occupier.
Hamas shouldn’t have 9/11’d them, but Israel shouldn’t have stolen all the land from palestinians and cramp them into a ghetto 4 times denser than LA, tell the civilians to evacuate to the other end of the city, then bomb at least 10 times more civilian causalities who were trying to escape.
With the extreme amounts of lobbying by Israel, I wouldn’t be Surprised Israel has significant control over the west. But that’s besides the point, we’re still giving billions of dollars for colonialism and ethnic cleansing.
None of this should be a surprise, look at American military policy such as Real Politik. None of Israel’s creation in the Middle East instead of Rwanda was because the west was sympathetic to Jewish struggles. It was a pragmatic choice to create an ally near a center of command closer to the East. Joe Biden himself, decades ago, said if Israel didn’t already exist in the middle east, we would have to make one anyways
This reads like snippets from twelve different breadtube video essays lmao
The land wasn’t “stolen” yesterday, it was administered to Israel by the British when the ottoman empire collapsed after ww1. Palestinians never had more than squatting rights, they were subjects under ottoman rule. But they were still pissed about a Jewish state on what they considered theirs. When the coalition of Arab nations went to war with Israel over the next couple decades, they lost over and over again. All of them came to their senses and made peace with Israel but the Palestinians are still hyped up for armed struggle from decades of propaganda.
Here’s the thing: both the Isreali right and Palestine believe that they will win if they keep fighting. But Israel is correct and Palestinians are delusional - not in small parts because lefty Twitter has taken over with hyping them up. Even conceptually I think that’s reprehensible. The idea that you can start killing people just because your great granpa was evicted at some point is insane and justifies infinite violence.
The fellow tax payers of Israel because they kind of don’t trust their neighbors
Okay so it’s actually really easy for you to look up how many billions of dollars we have given to Israel, but if you really want to insist that they are financially and politically independent in their ethnic cleansing of Palestinians, then sure, have it your way
I mean you say that, yet the Palestinians would probably say it’s the other way around and it is in fact Israel who is in control of the West. Hamas shouldn’t have 9/11nd the Israeli if they didn’t want to get cleansed. The blood of the women and children they hide behind is on their hands as far as I’m concerned.
All of Israel is stolen land. It’s not fair to equate violence when one group is occupied and one is the occupier.
Hamas shouldn’t have 9/11’d them, but Israel shouldn’t have stolen all the land from palestinians and cramp them into a ghetto 4 times denser than LA, tell the civilians to evacuate to the other end of the city, then bomb at least 10 times more civilian causalities who were trying to escape.
With the extreme amounts of lobbying by Israel, I wouldn’t be Surprised Israel has significant control over the west. But that’s besides the point, we’re still giving billions of dollars for colonialism and ethnic cleansing.
None of this should be a surprise, look at American military policy such as Real Politik. None of Israel’s creation in the Middle East instead of Rwanda was because the west was sympathetic to Jewish struggles. It was a pragmatic choice to create an ally near a center of command closer to the East. Joe Biden himself, decades ago, said if Israel didn’t already exist in the middle east, we would have to make one anyways
This reads like snippets from twelve different breadtube video essays lmao
The land wasn’t “stolen” yesterday, it was administered to Israel by the British when the ottoman empire collapsed after ww1. Palestinians never had more than squatting rights, they were subjects under ottoman rule. But they were still pissed about a Jewish state on what they considered theirs. When the coalition of Arab nations went to war with Israel over the next couple decades, they lost over and over again. All of them came to their senses and made peace with Israel but the Palestinians are still hyped up for armed struggle from decades of propaganda.
Here’s the thing: both the Isreali right and Palestine believe that they will win if they keep fighting. But Israel is correct and Palestinians are delusional - not in small parts because lefty Twitter has taken over with hyping them up. Even conceptually I think that’s reprehensible. The idea that you can start killing people just because your great granpa was evicted at some point is insane and justifies infinite violence.