• irmoz@reddthat.com
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    10 个月前

    Keep reaching for further and further strawmen

    It’s not a strawman. You think a minimum age is “pointless” because “no one would actually vote for a child”. I transplanted that exact argument into a situation I knew would showcase its absurdity.

    Proving you wrong isn’t a fallacy!

    Democracy requires majorities of people to do anything.

    Majorities can be misled. Surely you’re aware of this?

    A few people voting for nonsense options doesnt do anything.

    It’s not “a few people” though. Trump is actively and increasingly popular despite his obvious crimes.

    A few people murdering actually kills people.

    A bloc of fanatics actually gets their way when organised. That’s democracy.

    If youre worried a majority of people will choose a nonsense option, well then you dont believe in democracy anymore.

    Now that’s a fallacy - A false dichotomy, AKA a black and white fallacy.

    According to you, there are only two options:

    1. I believe people only ever vote rationally.

    2. I don’t believe in democracy.

    This is absurd.

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      10 个月前

      Majorities can be misled.

      Trump is actively and increasingly popular

      A bloc of fanatics actually gets their way when organised. That’s democracy.

      You dont believe in democracy. Democracy is people collectively deciding, and you dont like what people are collectively deciding.

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        10 个月前

        You sure changed your tune quick! What happened to this not being likely? What happened to it being pointless to block voting for criminals because they simply wouldn’t be that silly?

        I believe in democracy. But I also believe in education - and you guys over there in the US aren’t good at either of those things. You have a corrupt, shambolic democracy and a failing education system that churns out dumb, blind followers to feed it.

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            10 个月前

            Sounds to me like you are the one who doesn’t believe in democracy… because that’s not my take.