Reddit must share IP addresses of piracy-discussing users, film studios say::undefined

  • Dave@lemmy.nz
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    Reddit must share IP addresses of piracy-discussing users

    Uh oh, some sort of court ruling?

    film studios say

    Oh right, nothing to see here.

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      That doesn’t mean they won’t do it, the more the “money taker” class takes control the more their internal regulations actually matter.

      Unless we regulate that they can’t do this you can rest assured the businesses will play with each other.

      Reddit is going public, they won’t give a fuck about your privacy anymore.

  • littleblue✨@lemmy.world
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    “Film studios” can eat a bag of rotting dicks. Hollywood was literally founded on the specific plot of land that was not only cheap AF, but also as far away from the European filmmakers (they were stealing from) as they could afford.

    Fuck. Off.

      • littleblue✨@lemmy.world
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        Weinstein? Do you say Harvey Weinstein? I could’ve sworn you said Harvey Weinstein has had festering dick rot for so long that he’s become an oozing open wound entirely, but that assumes he wasn’t already.

    • Spotlight7573@lemmy.world
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      In this case, it’s less about the actionability of going after the pirate and more about using them as a witness to go after the ISP with deeper pockets by showing they failed to kick pirating users off of their service. They don’t care that they downloaded it, they care that the users knew they wouldn’t get in trouble for piracy with that ISP and that the ISP benefited from that by keeping pirating users subscriptions active. Testimony from pirating users about why they chose that ISP and how even they knew the ISP wouldn’t do anything to resolve copyright violation issues could be pretty helpful in court.

      From the article:

      In this week’s filing, the film studios claim that six Redditors’ IP address logs are “clearly relevant and proportional to the needs of the case" because the Reddit users all made comments that either establish “that Frontier has not reasonably implemented a policy for terminating repeat infringers sufficient for a safe harbor affirmative” or that “the ability to freely pirate without consequence was a draw to becoming a subscriber of Frontier."

      Last year, a Reddit user wrote that they received 44 emails from Frontier threatening to cut off their service due to torrent downloads, but “if they didn’t do it after 44 emails … they won’t."

      In 2022, another Reddit user said that they had used Frontier DSL for years and “despite the shitty internet, they didn’t give a shit what I downloaded.”

  • Dizzy Devil Ducky@lemm.ee
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    Imagine you have a right to know who’s talking about doing something illegal without proof they actually carry it out. What is that, a cop run film company?

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    Seems a little outdated to ask for IP addresses. Many use apps to browse reddit and phones get new IPs all the time.

    Heck I can see some weird shit people download by toggling airplane mode on/off and visiting iknowwhatyoudownloaded

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            So as long as you’re not doing anything illegal, you don’t mind the increasing size of the surveillance state? I doubt you do anything illegal in the bathroom, so you don’t mind if I do a little surveillance on your habits there, right? It’s just for anonymous marketing, I promise.

            Something doesn’t seem to line up since you’re anti-google

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        Yep. People act like they’re suddenly safe because they switch IP addresses. All those addresses are logged and can be traced by history. Heck, even VPNs can be rendered useless if they keep logs and are subpoenaed, or you forget to log out of services that communicate automatically your IP address when you switch to a VPN. Just takes a little more effort to link the VPN traffic.

        People don’t understand that the only thing between them and legal trouble is the willingness of the system to expend the effort to track them down, not that there’s any real security in the easiest methods people use to avoid detection.

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        Oh yeah it’s super helpful. They also have a bitorrent tester so you can see what the seeders see you as.

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    You know what? I fucking hate movies now. Every movie that comes out these days if trash. But I’m gonna dl all these new blockbusters and fuckin seed them indefinitely. Why? Because fuck em that’s why.

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    Just wait for the IPO then buy a controlling stake. Seems easier than forcing reddit in court. Spwz loves dick as long as it pays well. No need for the hammer

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    I was merly discussing how to stay away from these easy to use services that allow people to pirate. Why do they need my IP?

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    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    For the third time in less than a year, film studios with copyright infringement complaints against a cable Internet provider are trying to force Reddit to share information about users who have discussed piracy on the site.

    In the first instance, US Magistrate Judge Laurel Beeler ruled in the US District Court for the Northern District of California that the First Amendment right to anonymous speech meant Reddit didn’t have to disclose the names, email addresses, and other account registration information for nine Reddit users.

    Film companies, including Bodyguard Productions and Millennium Media, had subpoenaed Reddit in relation to a copyright infringement lawsuit against Astound Broadband-owned RCN about subscribers allegedly pirating 34 movie titles, including Hellboy (2019), Rambo V: Last Blood, and Tesla.

    In her ruling, Beeler noted that while the First Amendment right to anonymous speech is not absolute, the film producers had already received the names of 118 Grande subscribers.

    She also said the film producers had failed to prove that “the identifying information is directly or materially relevant or unavailable from another source.”

    This week, as reported by TorrentFreak, film companies Voltage Holdings, which are part of the previous two subpoenas, and Screen Media Ventures, another film studio with litigation against RCN, filed a motion to compel [PDF] Reddit to respond to the subpoena in the US District Court for the Northern District of California.


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