• AwkwardLookMonkeyPuppet@lemmy.world
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    10 months ago

    Right? But anyone that points this out gets shouted down, accused of all sorts of things, and is generally disliked. It doesn’t make sense. The human population has exploded, and as a result, our impact on the environment has also exploded. There are more than double the number of people on earth than there were when I was born, and it’s noticeable everywhere I go.

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      10 months ago

      Thankfully it doesn’t seem it will double again, population growth is already dropping tonnes. So then, what are you trying to say by saying there’s too many people?

      The most generous interpretation I can come up with is apologia for the biggest polluters, a smug way to continue to justify not polluting less (‘it’s just the result of so many people’)

      The worst interpretation is you are implying there should be less people…?

      Or what other interpretation is there? You tell me.

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        10 months ago

        There should be fewer people. Idk why that is considered a hot take. There have never been this many people on the planet all at once before. There’s no good reason to maintain this population level. That doesn’t mean anyone alive should be unalived. It means providing people with sex education, contraceptives, and general education. It means people deciding to have 1 kid, or no kids, instead of 10 kids. I’m not providing any apologies for the mass polluters (corporations), but if there’s fewer people in a generation or two, then there’s fewer resources consumed to produce things for those people. Pointing out that our population has reached an unsustainable level doesn’t mean we should stop working towards a green future either. People bring all these other ideas with them and link them to any suggestion that perhaps our population is too large, when that statement is meant as a stand-alone point, not some opening line to a grand conspiracy.

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          10 months ago

          I agree wholeheartedly with what you are saying; when you expand on what you mean past just ‘there are too many people’ and actually suggest realistic meaningful solutions like you have here, I highly doubt that most people would ‘accuse you of all sorts of things’. It’s just that when you simply post ‘there are too many people’ this implies there should be less people, to most people they would interpret that to mean in an immediate sense, aka unaliving them.

          Now that you’ve expanded on what you had to say I can see that clearly isn’t what your intention was to convey. I would just like to say though that considering human population level is not a factor we can control without death or reducing birthrate, and birthrates are already reducing globally, you should be able to see why many would assume you are advocating for the other option.