‘Impossible’ to create AI tools like ChatGPT without copyrighted material, OpenAI says::Pressure grows on artificial intelligence firms over the content used to train their products

  • ChrislyBear@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    So if I look at a painting study it and then emulate the original painter’s artstyle, then I’m in breach of their copyright?

    Or if I read a lot of fantasy like GRRM or JK Rowling and I also write a fantasy book and say, that they were my Inspiration, I’m breaching their copyright??

    That’s not how it works, and if it is, it shouldn’t be!

    Sure, if a start reproducing work, i.e. plagiarizing the work of others, then I’m doing sth wrong.

    And to spin this further: If I raise a child on children’s books by a specific author, am I breaching copyright, when my child enters the workforce and starts to earn money??? Stupid, yes! But so are the copyright claims against LLMs, in my opinion.

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      I don’t think it’s accurate to call the work of AI the same as the human brain, but most importantly, the difference is that humans and tools have and should have different rights. Someone can’t simply point a camera at a picture and say “I can look at it with my eye and keep it in my memory, so why can’t the camera?”

      Because we ensure the right of learning for people. That doesn’t mean it’s a free pass to technologically process works however one sees fit.

      Nevermind that the more people prodded AIs, the more they have found that the reproductions are much more identical than simply vaguely replicating style from them. People have managed to get whole sentences from books and obvious copies of real artwork, copyrighted characters and celebrities by prompting AI in specific ways.

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        the right of learning

        That’s not a thing. There is a right to an education, but that is not about copyright (though it may imply the necessity of fair use exceptions in certain contexts).

        Also, you are confused about AI output. It’s possible to make the AI spit out training data, but it takes, indeed, prodding. It’s unlikely to matter by US law.

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      You’re comparing something humans often do subconsciously to a machine that was programmed to do that. Unless you’re arguing that intent doesn’t matter (pretty much every judge in America will tell you it does) then we’re talking about 2 completely different things.

      Edit: Disregard the struck out portion of my comment. Apparently I don’t know shit about law. My point is that comparing a a quirk of human psychology to the strict programming of a machine is a false equivalency.

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          1 year ago

          I looked it up and you’re right. I must of been thinking of a different crime. That’ll teach me to go spouting off about stuff.

          My point that AI is programmed to recycle and humans aren’t is still something I stand by, so I edited my comment.